New 240 Owner...Now what?

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Volvo, Apr 18, 2006.

  1. Volvo

    Volvo Guest

    Yesterday, I purchased a 1980 240 DL Coupe from it's original owners
    daughter and have all the service records. It was driven a daily 4
    mile round trip for 23 years or so...it has 95,XXX orginal miles and
    the motor and interior are absolutely mint. No dash cracks no fading,
    original glass.
    I made a appt for this week at DaisyWagen a great volvo shop in Seattle
    for a "full meal" deal. Tune-up,oil change, all belts, check engine
    harness etc...
    Beside's keeping it shiny what other preventive care can i do?

    thanks all

    george
     
    Volvo, Apr 18, 2006
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  2. Resist the temptation to use synthetic oil. This engine was designed
    to run for 300k miles on non-synthetic oil, changed regularly. If you
    switch it to synthetic, it is likely that at least some of those 26 year
    old oil seals will start to leak. Run a high qiality 10W-30 oil with a
    good oil filter, and change it every 3k-5k miles, depending on how you
    drive. If the oil in it now is dirty, change it at 1k, then 2k, then
    when
    it stays clean looking, use the schedule I noted above. If you do switch
    to synthetic or synthetic blend, watch carefully for oil leaks for at
    least
    6 months.

    If the transmission is automatic, have it power flushed, and be
    prepared
    to replace one or two main seals. If it's manual, have the trans oil
    changed.
    Likewise the differential oil and power steering fluid, and preferably
    the
    brake fluid as well.
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    Michael Cerkowski, Apr 18, 2006
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    Ed Guest

    What's this about syn oil causing leaks?

    They couldn't design the car to run on synthetics because they weren't
    available. I could find as many websites in agreement with your statement as
    disagree.

    Ed
     
    Ed, Apr 18, 2006
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    Brian V Guest

    I've tried Synthetics in 2 of my cars, in both it caused leaks. 2000 Volvo
    S80-T6 and in a 2000 GranPrix GTP. In both it seamed as if every seal in the
    things were leaking (streching it a bit, but that's how it appeared), when
    switched back to regular oil, not a drop anywhere on the GP, on my Volvo I
    had to re-do the seals on the breather box because they continued to leak.

    Why they leaked, I do not know. What I do know is I won't be going back to
    synthetic in any of my cars unless that's what it came with from the
    factory.

    -Brian
     
    Brian V, Apr 18, 2006
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    Allen Guest

    A lot of the older rubber seals do not hold up to the synthetic oils, they
    turn into black goo. This happened to the aircraft industry when Mobil
    brought out a synthetic oil for airplanes. They had aircraft loosing all
    their oil in flight through the seals in the propellers and engines.

    Allen
     
    Allen, Apr 18, 2006
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    Volvo Guest

    Ok. Synthetic vs Regular. A touchy subject indeed.

    Anything else?
     
    Volvo, Apr 18, 2006
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  7. George,
    Michael mentions a using a good oil filter. More specifically, use the
    exact oil filter from Volvo, or get your oil filter made by Mann, sold by
    the case from www.ipdusa.com in your neck of the woods (Portland, OR). I
    have no affiliation with ipd, but many of us have found this Volvo parts
    supplier to be great with helping Volvo home mechanics. Don't use the oil
    filters from your neighborhood generic parts franchise. The Volvo engines
    are built to last, but expect to be well maintained well. The Volvo/Mann
    brand oil filter is a cheap insurance for this.

    Group, Any thoughts about traditional oil vs. switching to synthetic on an
    engine already at 100,000 miles? Just kidding...
    George, at this point stick with the traditional 10w-30 oil as recommended
    in the owner's manual. It will still be pumping 10 years from now.
     
    Pat Quadlander, Apr 19, 2006
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    Bill Bradley Guest

    Step one: replace all of the Copper and Tin fuses with the bullet
    stainless steel kind. Corrosion of the fuses is the number one cause of
    hassles.
    Step two: 1980 is K-jetronic. Acquire a spare fuel pump relay, put it
    in the glove compartment. They fail without warning and are extremely
    easy to replace if you have one on hand. (Yes they are pricey, but a
    junkyard one works just as well provided that you test that it still works)

    Pushing 100K, you might want to also want to replace the timing belt
    tensioner, and the brushes are probably worn down on the alternator so
    you may want to have the brush/regulator package replaced so that you
    can ignore it for another 100K miles. Neither is particularly
    expensive, and they may go for another 50-80K, but why find out on the
    roadside.

    Bill
     
    Bill Bradley, Apr 19, 2006
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  9. There are several issues here. The age of the oil seals as I
    mentioned,
    the kind of rubber used (I ran my 1986 Honda Civic Si on full syhtetic
    for
    almost two decades with no problems, then just a leaking distributor
    O-ring
    and 'weeping' head gasket at 128k miles and 17 years age), and, finally,
    whether or not the seals are really sound, or are being stabilized by
    old
    gummy oil residue. In that last case, it's just the high detergent
    factor
    of synthetic oil that does them in.

    In short, with the exception of the early years of the 5 cylinder
    engine (with narrow, easily blocked oil passages in the head), and turbo
    engines run hard, it isn't a great idea to switch a Volvo engine to
    synthetic oil. It can work, but the risks don't seem to out-weigh
    the benefits, especially for the low-stress "red block" 4 cyl engines
    found in the 240 and 740/940 series.


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    Michael Cerkowski, Apr 19, 2006
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  10. Volvo now recommends synthetic oil and fills up first time with synthetic
    ,but yes old seals will most likely leak with any oil .Remember nowdays they
    have seal expanders in the synthetic oil as it was an issue when Noah was a
    kid .
     
    John Robertson, Apr 19, 2006
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  11. If you manage to get past the Amsoil adverts ,you will find synthetic oil
    (the real stuff not the oils ain't just oils )con job , are really brilliant
    ..Check it out .

    BP MOBIL AND SUCH PREFORM WELL
     
    John Robertson, Apr 19, 2006
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    Volvo Guest

    Thanks Bill and Michael and everyone else. She's at Daisywagan getting
    looked at right now...
    Michael - As far as the fuses can the ceramic fuses be replaced with
    steel ones matching the amp rating. Or do i need to get a new fuse
    box, is this pricey for a mechanic to do?
     
    Volvo, Apr 19, 2006
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  13. I don't think I'm the Michael you asked, but I'm here, so...
    I *think* the steel fuses are a simple swap-in. Don't consider
    that urgent, though, unless you have electrical problems. If your
    climate is reasonably dry you can just clean the contacts on the
    existing fuses. We live where the old fuses should be giving us
    trouble, but they haven't, not at all. We have an '88 240DL.
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    Michael Cerkowski, Apr 19, 2006
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    Volvo Guest

    I wouldn't considered Seattle dry. But I get your point nonetheless, I
    wait and see. Run now she's fine but I'll keep an eye out, thanks!

    g
     
    Volvo, Apr 20, 2006
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    Alex Zepeda Guest

    Hardly an issue with a modern RWD Volvo. My '89 owner's manual recommends
    synthetic oils for both the V6 and the turbo motors.
     
    Alex Zepeda, Apr 21, 2006
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