Newbie S60/S80 questions

Discussion in 'Volvo S80' started by Tim Coble, Dec 15, 2004.

  1. Tim Coble

    Tim Coble Guest

    I'm new to the group, as I'm just in the early stages of researching my next
    car purchase. A Volvo is at the top of my list - in particular, I like what
    I've seen so far from the S60 and S80. (The S60 in particular.) However, in
    reading a number of owner reviews on various websites I've come across a
    surprising number of people who claim to have had some pretty severe service
    problems - particularly with the S80 - right off the bat. Flaky electrical
    systems, bad brakes, myriad (serious) engine problems. The theme that
    consistently ran through these complaints was something to the effect that
    Volvos are now more Ford than Volvo, so the days of exceptional quality and
    longevity are pretty much over. I realize that these are just subjective,
    anecdotal data points, but I'm wondering whether they're the rule or the
    exception. So, I figured I'd go straight to the experts with a few
    questions:

    1. What kind of reputation for quality do the S60 and S80 have overall?

    2. Are there any specific years and/or configurations of either that tend to
    be particularly good or particularly bad in terms of requiring service?

    3. Are there other comparable models/years of Volvos that I should be
    considering instead of these?

    4. If I should end up purchasing either of these models, is there anything
    that I should be aware of or do in terms of preventative maintenance and/or
    keeping an eye out for specific warning signs? How about during the test
    drive and inspection process?


    Many thanks!
    -Tim
     
    Tim Coble, Dec 15, 2004
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  2. Tim Coble

    Hal Whelply Guest

    The current S60 and S80 were designed pre-Ford. To say they're now "more
    Ford than Volvo" is, in my opinion, rediculous. As for "exceptional
    quality," I'd ask, "Compared to what?" If you have a lot of experience with
    Japanese quality and reliability, you may be disappointed. I deliberately
    made the choice, knowing what I was getting into, to put the Volvo safety
    record around my wife, who drives our S60. Most problems were handled under
    warranty, and I have to say the can never left us stranded. But maintenance
    and repair are expensive, and you'll pay out more than you would for a
    high-end Japanese product of about the same price.
    According to Consumer Reports, which is worth paying attention to (despite
    what some say), the S60 is average in reliability, a CR "recommended"
    vehicle, which, for a car that aspires to be a sport luxury sedan is
    "neither sporty nor luxurious." Their view, not mine. My take: sporty enough
    for my driving, and adequately luxurious.
    I don't know.
    I don't think so, but there will be some who say you're better off with a
    ten-year-old 240DL. Hogwash. From what I've read, the model years just
    before the 2001 S60 (S70s) were trouble-prone. Early S80s (1999, 2000) were
    also.
    Not that I know of.

    Our '01 S60 2.4T has about 55K miles put on over nearly 48 months. So far,
    it's been OK. I love the looks of the car. But the back seat is unusable
    except for children or very small adults.

    HW
     
    Hal Whelply, Dec 16, 2004
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