P1800ES

Discussion in 'Other Volvo Models' started by James Sweet, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest


    Yes, these are highly desirable collectible cars among Volvo aficionados.
    The prices are not up there with some of the other European cars but a
    nicely restored example will fetch a fair amount. If you do a really top
    notch hot rodding job it could be a cool car, I'm into the stock look myself
    though.
     
    James Sweet, Jan 24, 2008
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  2. James Sweet

    Mr. V Guest

    The cars are valued higher than other Volvos of similar years, but I
    wouldn't approach this car with an idea of fixing it up and making
    money.

    Sounds like it needs a lot of work and time to sort it out, and there
    are better cars out there to fix up and flog on the market, IF your
    desire is to make money.

    BUT, if you like the car and plan to keep it as a driver, go for it.

    Hot rodding it would be OK, as people have been putting small block
    V-8s in 240s forever.

    Here's a link you might find useful...

    http://www.ipdusa.com/classifieds.asp?CLC_ID=12
     
    Mr. V, Jan 24, 2008
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  3. James Sweet

    Roadie Guest

    In factory spec condition yes.
    It would not be a travesty, and could result in a fun and useful car.
    But it would have value only as a parts car for Volvo collectors.
    Whether to do it or not reallly depends on your reasons for getting
    into this. If you are looking to build a sleeper hot rod that you
    can have some fun with then go ahead.

    The resulting car will have value only to those with an interest in
    Volvo P1800ES cars with high performing Honda motors. Even in
    pristine rebuilt condition I don't see a car like that appearing on
    Barrett-Jackson.
     
    Roadie, Jan 24, 2008
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  4. James Sweet

    Adysthemic Guest

    Group,
    I just found a 73 pretty cheap. It's marginal but solid. Do these cars have
    any collectible
    value? I really like the looks. I'm getting it for a "beater/rain car" to
    fix up and use. I've done a few engine swap projects in the past, but don't
    want to "lump" a collector car.
    I looked around the net. Didn't find much fervor collector wise. I see
    *40/*50 turbo
    motors all over for cheap to stay Volvo. I have access to a Honda S2000
    motor/trans that looks like it might fit (237hp). Would using this car as a
    hotrod
    platform be a total travesty? Opinions Please. The car has 110,000 miles, a
    bit of rust
    but easily fixable, original paint so nothing is hidden. Interior OK except
    the front seats.
    Automatic :>P. It's basically just an old car now, thanks Adythemic
     
    Adysthemic, Jan 24, 2008
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  5. James Sweet

    Ron Guest

    You've got a very narrow, shallow engine bay on a full unibody...even
    the front fenders and inner fenders are structural. It's a challenge
    to get anything to fit in there, though it can be done, even a Ford
    302. You can get a very streetable Volvo B20 ( the original engine)
    up to about 160 BHP (normally aspirated) fairly cheap compared to the
    cost of fitting anything else, even a B21. There are a few
    supercharged B20's out there too, up over 200 HP. Doesn't sound like
    that much, but given the weight of an 1800 ( even the ES), it's an
    inspiring power to weight ratio, with a really nice front to rear
    distribution of weight.

    But all said, it's your car and your choice.

    Check out http://vclassics.com/mppe1.html for some ideas of a
    normally aspirated B20, and http://1800philes.com about a very sweet
    supercharged, Megasquirted B20. Finally check out
    http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/1800list/ ( you'll have to join)
    to hang out with the Volvo 1800 bunch. It's a really great group, with
    lots of good info, not too much bad blood, and little spam. These
    engine swaps have been discussed many times over, so there's lots of
    good info to make your decision with.

    Ron


    Ron/Champ 6

    1963 8E5 Champ (Champ 6)
    1995 VW Passat (Vanilla..yuk)
    1994 Volvo 850 (Tilley)
    1968 Volvo 122 wagon (Buster)
    1970 Volvo 142 (Musturd)
     
    Ron, Jan 25, 2008
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  6. James Sweet

    mjc13 Guest

    I generally agree with the other replies. The S2000 motor might not
    be such a great idea, though: IIRC this engine has to really scream to
    make a lot of power, and in a heavier car like the ES it might actually
    seem slower than the B20E motor in normal driving. I say get the most
    power from the Volvo engine.
     
    mjc13, Feb 6, 2008
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