running lights

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Clive, Jul 6, 2003.

  1. Clive

    Clive Guest

    Does anyone know how to disable running lights on a 1998 v40?
    thanks

    Clive
     
    Clive, Jul 6, 2003
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  2. Clive

    Gunner Guest

    WHY???????
     
    Gunner, Jul 6, 2003
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  3. Turn on the parking lights.

    Then remember to turn them off. They don't turn off automatically like
    the running lights. Volvo has the running lights because they were
    found to prevent accidents. In case you haven't heard, that is what
    Volvo is all about, job one, better idea, etc.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jul 6, 2003
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  4. Clive

    Roger Mills Guest

    You ask a simple question, and get loads of replies along the lines of "What
    do you want to THAT for?"

    There have been lots of similar threads - and it is a very contentious
    subject.

    The method of disabling them seems to vary from model to model. I don't know
    about the V40, but on my 1999 V70, there is a little screw in the corner of
    the light switch - which can be turned to 3 different positions to control
    the way in which the lights work. This is described in the Owner Handbook.
    The V40 may have something similar - I don't know.

    In my opinion, daylight running lights serve NO useful purpose in good
    daylight - apart from that of boosting the coffers of those who have shares
    in light-bulb manufacture. The ridiculous idea stems from Scandinavia -
    where it hardly gets light in the winter and where the locals are apparently
    incapable of deciding for themselves that they need to turn their lights on.
    Those of us in the rest of the world have to suffer daylight running lights
    in consequence.

    As you will have guessed, I have disabled mine!

    Roger
     
    Roger Mills, Jul 6, 2003
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  5. Clive

    Rob Guenther Guest

    Even in broad daylight I can see a car coming from a farther distance with
    lights on, then if they had them off. Also in Canada people seem to be like
    these scandanavians that you stereotype, and they never turn their lights on
    in the correct situations... maybe you are perfect, but there are many
    people that should just leave their lights on 24/7, to benefit the rest of
    us.... I am sick of driving in fog/rain with cars running no head lights, or
    just amber lights up front, nothing in the back... Personally I turn my
    taillights on if they don't come on automatically on every car I drive (all
    three of my cars have full front lights, but the 1999 Golf TDI doesn't turn
    on its rear lights).
     
    Rob Guenther, Jul 6, 2003
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  6. Clive

    Gunner Guest

    I am/was Canada Safety Council Defensive Driving Instructor. Daylight
    running lights save lives. Volvo did it right by just running low beams
    instead of the stupid plan in the past to use less light in an alternate
    plan as was the systems engineered in the past.

    I guess you don't use your seat belt either.

    Tell your insurance company that you plan to disable a safety feature built
    into your vehicle. I guess your prefer to pay higher insurances rates and
    think that a head on crash in which each vehicle is travelling in excess of
    50 MPH if not 80 MPH worth the risk. Just an opinion but a head-on crash at
    a combined speed of 100 to 160 MPH is likely not in the "probably
    survivable" category especially if you are not wearing your seat belts

    I suggest you ought to make sure your life insurance is paid up.

    BTW motorcyclist decided long ago to use their headlights at all times to
    avert accidents the majority of which are caused by the driver of an
    automobile.

    Just so I can stay out of your way. Where are you planning to drive?


    G
     
    Gunner, Jul 6, 2003
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  7. From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Roger Mills:
    Some website that I visited recently put ther blame on the Greyhound
    Bus Co who made some issue about the safety of their buses, linking it
    to headlight use.
    It's a beguiling and apparently sensible idea that people presume to
    be true, but the news here in the UK a few months ago was that a major
    study by the EU was unable to validate the daytime use of headlights
    as a safety enhancement.

    I think it's now an issue largely driven by car maker's marketing
    departments.

    It also seems to motivate the righteous into bizarre axe-grinding
    contests.



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    Stewart Hargrave

    Faster than public transport


    For email, replace 'SpamOnlyToHere' with my name
     
    Stewart Hargrave, Jul 6, 2003
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  8. Clive

    JohanE Guest

    Hmm here in sweden we often get the sun in our eyes due to that where i
    live we ar on the same latitude as ancorage.( steeper angle to sun) so with
    the headlights on in dayligt its easier to spot a meeting car.

    yanks are more pro own choice than safetly for all....
     
    JohanE, Jul 6, 2003
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  9. Clive

    Roger Mills Guest

    I couldn't possibly comment about Yanks - I'm British!

    I am very safety conscious - always wearing my seatbelt (contrary to the
    suggestion made by another poster) - and I believe in seeing and being seen.
    To this end, I have disabled another of Volvo's wonderful *safety* features
    whereby only one high intensity rear fog lamp was enabled at the
    manufacturing stage. I now have TWO - which is far safer and far more likely
    to avoid being rear-ended in fog.

    BUT, I prefer to choose when I use my headlights rather than having them
    come on automatically with the ignition. If daylight running lights are an
    indisputable safety feature, why aren't they mandatory in all countries?

    [There was a very funny sketch by a British comedian called Jasper Carrott a
    few years ago, in which he was ridiculing Volvo's running lights. When
    Volvos reach the end of their life and go to a scrap yard and are turned
    into a bale of steel, they STILL have their lights on!!]

    Roger
     
    Roger Mills, Jul 6, 2003
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  10. Clive

    Andrew Guest

    Good point!

    Say, are Airbags "mandatory in all countries"? What about ABS?

    a
     
    Andrew, Jul 7, 2003
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  11. From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Roger Mills:
    Stop it! You actually *want* to stir up the hornet's nest, don't you?



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    Stewart Hargrave

    Faster than public transport


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    Stewart Hargrave, Jul 7, 2003
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  12. From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Stuart Gray:
    This seems to disprove their effectiveness.
    I ridden my bike with both light on and light off, and I can't say
    I've seen much difference in the behaviour of other road users. I
    certainly haven't seemed to be courting more danger with the light off
    than on.




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    Stewart Hargrave

    Faster than public transport


    For email, replace 'SpamOnlyToHere' with my name
     
    Stewart Hargrave, Jul 7, 2003
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  13. Clive

    Stuart Gray Guest

    You have been one of the lucky ones then. I wish I could tell that to the
    five friends of mine that are no longer, to see if it made a difference.
    They drove with lights off, but sometimes lights on, depending on
    conditions. The Procurator Fiscal always reported they had their lights off,
    or the car that hit them didn't know if they were on or off. I'll keep mine
    on. I'm still here.
     
    Stuart Gray, Jul 7, 2003
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  14. Clive

    Rob Guenther Guest

    I know for sure ABS isn't mandatory. Most Japanese and American cars come
    with optional ABS systems in their entry to even a lot of base model midsize
    cars... Some Korean cars aren't availible with ABS in the base model, you
    have to get the top line to get it, and even then its an option... Every car
    in Canada has to come with a driver and passenger airbad tho... Tho of
    course they don't do much if the car is a tin can anyways.
     
    Rob Guenther, Jul 7, 2003
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  15. Clive

    L.A. Guest

    what is it about only ONE tail light? my old volvos had both lit, didn't
    they?



     
    L.A., Jul 7, 2003
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  16. That is the problem. People don't realize that what appears to be good
    daylight frequently isn't:

    1) when the sun is to their back cars are difficult to see unless they
    have their driving lights on.

    2) when approaching oncoming traffic, you can spot passing cars much
    sooner if they have the driving lights on.

    3) when passing, you can see oncoming cars much sooner if they have
    driving lights on.

    4) when your car is in the shade on an otherwise sunny day, your car is
    invisible to cars in the sun unless you have your driving lights on.

    5) insurance companies give discounts to fleet vehicles that always run
    with their running lights on because this reduces losses.

    6) running lights are usefull in determining if a car is infact
    approaching as opposed to being parked or going the same direction.

    7) running lights tend to freeze wild animals that otherwise wander
    across the road.

    8) in the great plains at high noon when no other cars are present and
    no wild animals are present it is even more important since the
    occasional car may blend in if it doesn't have its running lights on.

    9) if you get your insurance from the same insurance company I use, I
    hope you take every safety precaution possible so that our rates don't
    skyrocket.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jul 7, 2003
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  17. Clive

    Roger Mills Guest

    I was talking about rear fog lamps - not tail lights per se. I don't know
    whether Volvo have always had this policy, but on my 1999 V70, there were
    two fully wired rear fog lamps - complete with bulbs - *except* for an
    intentional break in the conductor on one lamp to stop it working! In
    previous discussions, people have sought to justify this by quoting some
    nonsense about the danger of confusing fog lamps with brake lights. I'm far
    more concerned about someone coming up fast behind and confusing my car with
    a motor-bike!

    [In the UK, it is mandatory to have at least one rear fog, and perfectly
    permissible to have two. Many new cars - including those made by Ford, who
    now own Volvo - have two as standard].

    Roger
     
    Roger Mills, Jul 7, 2003
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  18. Clive

    Roger Mills Guest

    Wow! You *have* been brainwashed, haven't you!

    I doubt that I use the same insurance company - I'm in the UK!

    Roger
     
    Roger Mills, Jul 7, 2003
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  19. Clive

    Roger Mills Guest

    Have you managed to figure out how to do it yet, amidst all the crap about
    why you shouldn't even be trying?

    Roger
     
    Roger Mills, Jul 7, 2003
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  20. Clive

    Clive Guest

    ive not roger lol
    ive looked at the switch and cannot see anything.
    as there is nothing in the handbook i'll ask the main dealer on thursday
    when i go moan about a job they didnt do properly.

    Clive
     
    Clive, Jul 7, 2003
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