S60 Daytime Running Lights

Discussion in 'Volvo S60' started by Charlie Derk, Jul 24, 2003.

  1. Charlie Derk

    Charlie Derk Guest

    Sorry if this is a repost...

    Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
    actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on my car
    and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all the time.

    What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on the
    headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    Charlie
     
    Charlie Derk, Jul 24, 2003
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  2. Charlie Derk

    Gunner Guest

    I realize that you just landed from planet Zolton.
    YOU DON"T GET TO SHIT THEM OFF.

    THEY ARE TO PROTECT OTHER DRIVERS FROM IDIOTS WHO GET BEHIND THE WHEEL. THEY
    ARE A SAFETY DEVICE THE SAME AS SEAT BELTS, AIR BAGS AND A BRAIN THAT
    FUNCTIONS CORRECTLY!
     
    Gunner, Jul 24, 2003
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  3. From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Gunner:
    Wrong. But thanks for being so succinct.


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    Stewart Hargrave, Jul 24, 2003
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  4. Charlie Derk

    Bob Noble Guest

    No problem shutting off those light - - if you're a dealer.

    With the S80, we were introduced to the electronic showcase that Volvo's
    have become. They have, actually, broken a lot of gound on this. For
    those of us accustomed to "playing car," as my wife would have it, it's
    a pain. I always have that nagging doubt of a minor failure causing my
    S60 to stop *dead* at the side of the road. No fail-safe, no way to get
    it to return home on other than the wrecker's flatbed. If you didn't
    happen to know, your S60/80 has 40+ microprocessors outside the main
    computer!!

    Bitching finished - Now just ask your Dealer, nicely, to set the switch
    in the computer that will make that light switch mean something again.
    Don't be too hard on him if he refuses, as this is an identified "safety
    feature" and he, technically, lays himself open to litigation if you
    have an accident where the other driver just doesn't see you! If he
    doesn't know this, he just might help out.

    bob noble
    Reno, NV, USA
     
    Bob Noble, Jul 24, 2003
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  5. From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Gunner:
    <snip bollox>

    You really are a fuckwit, aren't you? Your answers demonstrate that
    you are not interested in road safety so much as simply telling others
    what they should or shouldn't do.

    The gentleman asked a polite, intelligent and relevant question; this
    alone sets him a league above you with your idiotic answers. He was
    asking to do nothing illegal or offensive. People disagree with you;
    get used to it.

    Charlie, we're not all as stupid or pigheaded as this twit seems to
    demostrate.


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    Stewart Hargrave, Jul 24, 2003
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  6. Charlie Derk

    Proconsul Guest

    | Some countries, Canada for one, has had daylight running light legislation
    | for decades. Therefore no aggression. Could the original inquisitor be
    from
    | the US? The land of the inalienable right to express your stupidity.

    Don't be so aggresively stupid yourself - Canada and other liberal paradises
    may exercise mind control over their citizens instead of allowing freedom of
    thought, but we don't do that to the same extent - yet - in the USA.....

    | In the US there is NO problem whenever you see an aggressive oncoming
    | vehicle with daylight running lights stop your vehicle, pull out your AK47
    | assault rifle and blast away. That will teach the SOB from buying a Volvo
    | which happens to be known for building safety into its cars.

    Unadulterated, whacko BS.....

    | Why did our original inquisitor buy a Volvo?? Brain Fart?

    Maybe he thought he was buying a quality car - does everyone who thinks
    differently from you function with "brain farts"rather than a logical
    process? What's your excuse for being a low grade moron.....?

    | By the way when he dismantle this safety feature he should tell his
    | insurance company.
    | They will be most amused that he will be increasing his likelihood of
    | costing them money.

    This "safety feature" borders on the terminally stupid - has zero effect and
    qualifies as an annoyance that only a liberal twit could "love".....

    | The Defensive Driving Course tries to explain to drivers how they can
    avoid
    | accidents even if everyone around you is behaving badly.

    DRLs don't have the slightest influence on "avoiding accidents". Avoiding
    accidents requires an alert driver with a brain, not a liberal law.....!

    | You have taught me to pay particular attention to Volvos.

    One would hope that you would pay attention to everyone and everything -
    especially liberal idiots who rely on lights rather than their brains....

    | Let's stop this soon.

    Good idea - quit while you're behind.....:)

    PC

    | "Mr. Slow" <>
    | wrote in message | > This issue has been well debated here before. It is suggested by some
    that
    | > the daytime running lights are a safety feature, while others simply
    find
    | > them unnecessary, embarrassing and unsafe. I too am frustrated that the
    | > "off" position of the light switch does not, in fact, turn the lights
    off
    | > and I wonder why there is a light switch at all. My view is that many
    | > motorists interpret the daytime running lights as a gesture of
    aggression
    | on
    | > the part on the Volvo driver, which is why I always drive on sidelights
    | > during the day. The problem is then that one must remember to turn the
    | light
    | > switch to "off" when the car is parked, otherwise the sidelights stay
    on.
    | >
    | > I am afraid that daytime running lights have been imposed upon all of us
    | > because of the idiots who do not know how to use their lights properly,
    | not
    | > only at night but also when visibility is poor in rain, murk or fog.
    These
    | > are probably the same people who never check oil, coolant and washer
    | bottle
    | > levels. It's engineering for the lowest common denominator , I'm afraid.
    | >
    | > | > > Sorry if this is a repost...
    | > >
    | > > Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
    | > > actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on my
    | car
    | > > and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all the
    | > time.
    | > >
    | > > What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on
    | the
    | > > headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.
    | > >
    | > > Any suggestions?
    | > >
    | > > Thanks,
    | > > Charlie
    | > >
    | > >
    | >
    | >
    |
    |
     
    Proconsul, Jul 24, 2003
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  7. From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Stephen M.
    Henning:

    Actually, I have seen with my own eyes that this is not right. If a
    vehicle is approaching you with the sun behind it, putting the lights
    on can make it disappear altogether, because the lights will then
    occlude the silhoutette of the vehicle. In fact, I believe some
    defence departments have experimented with this lighting effect to
    make tanks and things disappear when approaching the enemy from out of
    the sun.


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    Stewart Hargrave, Jul 24, 2003
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  8. Charlie Derk

    Stuart Gray Guest

    The subject of Volvo running lights and whether to use them or not must
    qualify as one of the best unintentional trolls ever !!!!!
    Personally I use mine, but I really couldn't get excited about it. Plenty
    other makes of car on the road don't have daylight lights, doesn't bother me
    either.
    I do ride my bike with lights on tho, except for my old Triumph Trailblazer,
    the battery would flatten, but you can hear the bike coming long before you
    would see a light.. I haven't had a crash in my Volvo, or my Triumph, but I
    have had crashes.

    Stuart.
     
    Stuart Gray, Jul 24, 2003
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  9. Charlie Derk

    Charlie Derk Guest

    Thanks to all for the replies.
    I think daytime running lights are a good idea - I think the Volvo
    implementation sucks. Most other cars have a different set of lights for
    the day. It just sucks having the normal headlights on 24/7.

    Thanks again!
    Charlie
     
    Charlie Derk, Jul 25, 2003
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  10. What you are saying is that is sucks for people to see Charlie Derk
    driving a car with normal headlights on during the daytime.

    What I am saying is that the bigger the headlights the better because
    that may be the one thing that keeps someone from running a stop sign
    and pulling out right in front of me on the country roads I drive every
    day. Even with regular headlights on during the day, some idiots are
    still are blind.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jul 25, 2003
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  11. Charlie Derk

    JJ Guest

    Air bags. Maybe we can have them removed and let the Grimey Reaper do
    his thing and excort the mouth breathers into the shallow end of the
    gene pool.
     
    JJ, Jul 25, 2003
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  12. Charlie Derk

    Peter Milnes Guest

    Why don't you get yourself the wiring from a UK/European car. They run with
    dimmed low beams with ignition on and lights at off.

    Cheers, Peter.

    : Thanks to all for the replies.
    : I think daytime running lights are a good idea - I think the Volvo
    : implementation sucks. Most other cars have a different set of lights for
    : the day. It just sucks having the normal headlights on 24/7.
    :
    : Thanks again!
    : Charlie
    :
    : : > Sorry if this is a repost...
    : >
    : > Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
    : > actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on my car
    : > and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all the
    : time.
    : >
    : > What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on the
    : > headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.
    : >
    : > Any suggestions?
    : >
    : > Thanks,
    : > Charlie
    : >
    : >
    :
    :
     
    Peter Milnes, Jul 26, 2003
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  13. Charlie Derk

    YSGI Guest

    The question was simple.

    How does he turn his lights off.

    He doesnt need to be preached to. If you are too ignorant to answer the
    question, then just refrain from posting.
    If you can add some POSITIVE posts, please do.

    Some of you need to QUIT PLAYING GOD AND GO BACK TO THE ROCK YOU CRAWLED
    FROM UNDER..

    -ysgi

    PS> Have a Coke and a Smile and SHUT THE **** UP ! ! ! ! ! !
     
    YSGI, Jul 26, 2003
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  14. Charlie Derk

    athol Guest

    What happens if you switch the lights to the "park" position? Do
    the headlights go out, leaving only the parking lights on the
    front? This might be a better option?
     
    athol, Jul 26, 2003
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  15. Charlie Derk

    Proconsul Guest

    I would urge you to see your therapist without delay - you need to have your
    lithium dosage adjusted....!

    The answers the poster got were simple, direct and nobody "preached".....

    So far, the only person demonstrating ignorance is you......and, remember
    that profanity and name calling is merely the hallmark of a limited mind
    failing to express itself.....:)

    PC

    | The question was simple.
    |
    | How does he turn his lights off.
    |
    | He doesnt need to be preached to. If you are too ignorant to answer the
    | question, then just refrain from posting.
    | If you can add some POSITIVE posts, please do.
    |
    | Some of you need to QUIT PLAYING GOD AND GO BACK TO THE ROCK YOU CRAWLED
    | FROM UNDER..
    |
    | -ysgi
    |
    | PS> Have a Coke and a Smile and SHUT THE **** UP ! ! ! ! ! !
    |
    |
    |
    |
    | | > Why don't you get yourself the wiring from a UK/European car. They run
    | with
    | > dimmed low beams with ignition on and lights at off.
    | >
    | > Cheers, Peter.
    | >
    | > | > : Thanks to all for the replies.
    | > : I think daytime running lights are a good idea - I think the Volvo
    | > : implementation sucks. Most other cars have a different set of lights
    | for
    | > : the day. It just sucks having the normal headlights on 24/7.
    | > :
    | > : Thanks again!
    | > : Charlie
    | > :
    | > : | > : > Sorry if this is a repost...
    | > : >
    | > : > Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
    | > : > actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on
    my
    | car
    | > : > and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all
    the
    | > : time.
    | > : >
    | > : > What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch
    on
    | the
    | > : > headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.
    | > : >
    | > : > Any suggestions?
    | > : >
    | > : > Thanks,
    | > : > Charlie
    | > : >
    | > : >
    | > :
    | > :
    | >
    |
    |
     
    Proconsul, Jul 26, 2003
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  16. Charlie Derk

    Peter Milnes Guest

    Advice that you could just as easily apply to yourself. You were not invited to
    be critical and abusive so kindly go back to your beer and SHADDUP!

    Cheers, Peter.

    : The question was simple.
    :
    : How does he turn his lights off.
    :
    : He doesnt need to be preached to. If you are too ignorant to answer the
    : question, then just refrain from posting.
    : If you can add some POSITIVE posts, please do.
    :
    : Some of you need to QUIT PLAYING GOD AND GO BACK TO THE ROCK YOU CRAWLED
    : FROM UNDER..
    :
    : -ysgi
    :
    : PS> Have a Coke and a Smile and SHUT THE **** UP ! ! ! ! ! !
    :
    :
    :
    :
    : : > Why don't you get yourself the wiring from a UK/European car. They run
    : with
    : > dimmed low beams with ignition on and lights at off.
    : >
    : > Cheers, Peter.
    : >
    : > : > : Thanks to all for the replies.
    : > : I think daytime running lights are a good idea - I think the Volvo
    : > : implementation sucks. Most other cars have a different set of lights
    : for
    : > : the day. It just sucks having the normal headlights on 24/7.
    : > :
    : > : Thanks again!
    : > : Charlie
    : > :
    : > : : > : > Sorry if this is a repost...
    : > : >
    : > : > Does anyone know how the heck to get the headlights on a 2001 S60 to
    : > : > actually shut off while driving? I put about 1000 miles a week on my
    : car
    : > : > and most of it is during the day. I hate having my lights on all the
    : > : time.
    : > : >
    : > : > What confuses the hell out of me is why they have an on/off switch on
    : the
    : > : > headlights when OFF, really doesn't turn them off.
    : > : >
    : > : > Any suggestions?
    : > : >
    : > : > Thanks,
    : > : > Charlie
    : > : >
    : > : >
    : > :
    : > :
    : >
    :
    :
     
    Peter Milnes, Jul 27, 2003
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  17. Charlie Derk

    YSGI Guest

    So while this person asks for an answer to shutting off his running lights,
    and MOST others are limited to answers such as "YOU DONT GET TO SHIT THEM
    OFF" (yes that is what they said) and "What you are saying is that is sucks
    for people to see Charlie Derk
    driving a car with normal headlights on during the daytime.", I am the one
    with the limited intelligence????
    OH, PLEASE!! ! !

    I was as interested in the answer to the question as the original poster.
    However, I had to wallow through moronic posts, and I am sick of it.
    Everytime someone on USENET asks a question, 25 people feel it necessary to
    tell him why he is a peon and stupid.

    Although I must say that the turning the little screw worked on my C70. So
    I did get the answer, but I could still do without the smart-assed posts,
    including yours.

    -ysgi
     
    YSGI, Jul 27, 2003
    #17
  18. If you do this and forget to turn the switch to either on or off when
    you shut off the engine, the battery will be run down by the next
    morning. I know, I did this recently.

    If you use either the headlights (on) or running lights (off), the
    lights are turned off with the ignition key. The parking lights bypass
    the ignition switch.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jul 27, 2003
    #18
  19. From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is YSGI:
    Welcome to usenet, where it's surprisingly easy to appear foolish.


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    Stewart Hargrave, Jul 27, 2003
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