should I buy another Volvo- help?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Steve, Feb 22, 2004.

  1. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Hey Deborah,

    Truth is Volvo has some "good ones" and some not so good. The '98 v70 was
    the very first production year for that model... and it's well known to
    have had more issues that say a '96,'97 850 for example. Bear in mind the
    first year (late '93) the 850 came out it had issues then as well. I will
    say this... Toyota makes a good car.
    I'd say you just were at the wrong place at the wrong time on this car.
    There will be others who have the same year and model you have and
    swear it was perfect, but in the end, statistically, the '98 v70 has had
    more than it's share of issues. FWIW
     
    Steve, Feb 22, 2004
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  2. I have owned Volvos for the past 12 years but my experience with my '98 v70r
    AWD has turned me off and sent me running to Toyota. this vehicle has been
    in and out for repairs so much- averages to at least once a month. Little
    things but aggravating. Brake pads that onlly last 16000km, steering rack
    needed replacement at 100,000km, seals that go resulting in smoke pouring
    out of engine when on vacation, -on and on. Is this a lemon or has Volvo
    quality gone down. I spend about $1500/yr on maintenance- too much.

    Is this typical- are Volvos now so fussy that high maintenance is the norm?

    thanks

    deborah
     
    deborah nixon, Feb 22, 2004
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  3. Steve

    Rob Guenther Guest

    The 98 model of the XC seems to have the most issues... seems like from
    98-00 Volvo made some pretty bad cars. The new ones seem fine tho, two
    dealer salesmen told me they wouldn't touch anything 98-01, that these were
    problem solving years for too many models, they said they changed too much
    at once. Of course this is a dealer opionion, they want to push new
    products, but I tend to believe that 98-00 were bad years.

    Toyota makes good cars, good cars for people who don't give a damn about
    driving, and just need an vehicular appliance to get from point A to B. They
    are geared towards people who don't car how it drives as long as it is
    smooth and quiet... They are boring mechanically, and there interiors are
    sleep inducing, just plain uninteresting to look at and touch... tho at
    least they are pretty durable.

    I can't see a Volvo, VW, Audi, BMW, MB owner going to a Japanese car.... I'm
    completely turned off of Japanese cars (minus Acura), but then again my
    principal car is a VW Golf, and I also drive a 960 wagon... once as you
    drive these cars it's hard to go back.

    IMO the original posters car was a lemon

    16000 miles on the brakes.... should be around 100K Kms+, we got 118KKms on
    our 960's pads, the 11 year old rotors with 145K on them are still on the
    car, with a BIT of meat to spare.... they will need changing soon (year
    maybe).

    Random problems... most likely attributed to a year one car.
     
    Rob Guenther, Feb 22, 2004
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  4. The '98 & '99 V70 was one of the worst cars Volvo came out with. The
    brakes and electrical system were the main problems. The power equipment
    and body hardware were also troublesome. They did a complete redesign
    in '01 which has proved very reliable. My '01 V70 XC has found this to
    be true. I always get scheduled maintenance by the dealer. That is a
    good idea on any modern vehicle.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Feb 23, 2004
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    Jeff W Guest

    FWIW, I have a '99 S-70, which I bought new. Its my wifes car & she
    hates it. You just look at it wrong & the paint scratches. The
    plastic laminate on the dash fell apart within months. It was my
    first Volvo, and will be my last. The replacement for this car will
    likely be an Audi, which is a much better car IMHO. (I put almost 300K
    on a late 80's Quattro with few problems)

    I have owned Toyota's for years, (I have 2 now, a Tacoma P/U &
    Landcruiser) and you basically jus put gas & them & go; forever. Great
    cars.

    I have gotten a little more life out of the front brake pads than the
    OP, maybe 20-25K miles on the first couple of changes. Then Volvo
    must have changed the lining as the 3rd went almost 50K; but then the
    rotors were worn out!

    Jeff
     
    Jeff W, Feb 23, 2004
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    James Sweet Guest

    You know, I'd think much more highly of Japanese cars if it weren't for all
    the rice boy "racers" running around, their "customized" cars are virtually
    all so utterly bland, they all turn out looking exactly the same, always
    with that childish toy plastic car appearance.
     
    James Sweet, Feb 23, 2004
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    Spanky Guest

    My 2000 S80 T-6 has only had it's scheduled maintenance. Period. It doesn't
    get any more reliable than that.
     
    Spanky, Feb 23, 2004
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  8. Truly. You want to go fast, get a Porsche.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Feb 23, 2004
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  9. Audi now is just as flimsy. If you want true reliability, get a used,
    mint condition late 90's E or S class(before they changed to the new
    bubble-eyed style) - they are built like tanks, and despite their age,
    they will outlast anything new. Finding one that was owned by an
    elderly person with 20-40K on it shouldn't be impossible, either.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Feb 23, 2004
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  10. Steve

    Steve S Guest

    Our S40 (50K miles) has been great on reliability - basically just
    scheduled maintenance. Only deviation are the headlights which burn
    out with great frequency. However this is only a minor annoyance.

    Our S60 (16K miles) has been good on maintenance so far. However, I
    find the S60 a waste of a car with very little resemblance to its
    predecesor - seems as if Volvo is moving in new direction of more
    flash and glitz. For this reason, I don't think we will get another
    Volvo.

    One note on routine maintenance - we had Honda's before our Volvos.
    Yes, the Honda's were ultra-reliable. However, we did spend more on
    routine, scheduled maintenance. I am guessing they replace parts more
    often, but who knows.
     
    Steve S, Feb 23, 2004
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    John Horner Guest

    I can't see a Volvo, VW, Audi, BMW, MB owner going to a Japanese car....
    I'm
    I used to feel exactly the same way and owned several VWs and Volvos during
    the 80s and 90s. Ownership hassles and costs sent me looking at the
    Japanese.

    The Acuras IMO put the competing model Volvos to shame if stations wagons
    and AWD are not important for you.

    I replaced my '96 850 with an '03 loaded Honda Accord. This is so much more
    car for so much less money than an S60 that the choice was an easy one for
    me. The '03 Accord out drives my '96 850 in all respects except braking
    distance. Cornering, ride and acceleration all kick the Volvo's butt.

    John
     
    John Horner, Feb 28, 2004
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