Volvo 940 vs Renault Crash test

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Hey All

I just came across this video on You Tube. They crash a 15 year old
Volvo 940 estate, for many people the epitome of a solid and safe
family car, into a 3 year old Renault Modus, notable as the first
small car to earn a maximum 5 Star safety rating from the European New
Car Assessment Program (Euro NCAP).

You wont believe what happens...



Regards
Russ
 
Russ said:
Hey All

I just came across this video on You Tube. They crash a 15 year old
Volvo 940 estate, for many people the epitome of a solid and safe
family car, into a 3 year old Renault Modus, notable as the first
small car to earn a maximum 5 Star safety rating from the European New
Car Assessment Program (Euro NCAP).

You wont believe what happens...


Regards
Russ
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Boy, I'm happy I sold my 900 series wagon to an obnoxious schmuck
instead of somebody I like!

And glad I spend most of my driving time in a Saab.

 
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Boy, I'm happy I sold my 900 series wagon to an obnoxious schmuck
instead of somebody I like!

And glad I spend most of my driving time in a Saab.

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I was really shocked to see the level of damage the Volvo suffered in
that collision. The most frightening part for me was the point when
they showed the driver's side of the volvo after the crash. The
driver would have most likely lost the use of their legs and would
require extrication from the vehicle by the rescue team because the
floor boards and dash collapsed right into the driver. I know the car
predates air bags so the driver most likely ate that steering wheel.

I drive a 96 Volvo 850 glt wagon. I now wonder how well it would hold
up in the same crash?

Russ
 
Hey All

I just came across this video on You Tube. They crash a 15 year old
Volvo 940 estate, for many people the epitome of a solid and safe
family car, into a 3 year old Renault Modus, notable as the first
small car to earn a maximum 5 Star safety rating from the European New
Car Assessment Program (Euro NCAP).

You wont believe what happens...


Regards
Russ
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It's not loading on my computer. Are the cars both rolling at the
same speed and crashed head-on?
 
It's not loading on my computer. Are the cars both rolling at the
same speed and crashed head-on?
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It's a head-on offset driver-on-driver crash at 40mph/car. What it
really illustrates is not so much that a Volvo is less safe but that
crash safety standards have risen significantly. No doubt if the Volvo
was put into that crash situation with one of its contemporaries (like
a 15-year-old Renault) the result would be different as I expect it
would be with a 3-year-old Volvo vs. the Modus.

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It's a head-on offset driver-on-driver crash at 40mph/car. What it
really illustrates is not so much that a Volvo is less safe but that
crash safety standards have risen significantly. No doubt if the Volvo
was put into that crash situation with one of its contemporaries (like
a 15-year-old Renault) the result would be different as I expect it
would be with a 3-year-old Volvo vs. the Modus.
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Exactly. I think whoever the testing organization was should have
used comparable vehicles if the idea was to draw a conclusion about
each vehicle.
 
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I drive a 96 Volvo 850 glt wagon. I now wonder how well it would hold
up in the same crash?
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For sure better than an almost 30 year old construction as the Volvo.

Try and take a new Volvo C30 and let it hit a 30 year old Renault.

You would not belive the damage the old fart would become.

See also this as a reminder of 30 years developement:

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=TPpU5azjCB8&mode=related&search=Train Crash Test

Regards
Bjøern J.
Denmark, a country in Scandinavia.....
 
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KLIP
Exactly. I think whoever the testing organization was should have
used comparable vehicles if the idea was to draw a conclusion about
each vehicle.
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Look, the Ranault can not cope with this in spite of its five star
EuroNCAP...;o)))))


Regards
Bjørn J.
 
Think about this. Renault here is a mini-MPV which is a crossover suv.
this means it sits higher. Which means its bumper was goint probably
above volvo's bumper and was basically going through fender and such.
Not much resistance in that area and not much energy could be
dissipated so to speak. It's about the same as comparing volvo vs a
bigger and taller SUV. Would not want to be in the frontal with it, no
matter what volvo you are in (sans XC90 probably)

Also being 15 years apart also makes a big difference. I've read
somewhere about volvo crash with a big ol' american car from 60s or
70. You know a lot of steel, chrome all over, one that looks like a
ship. The volvo was smashed but the guy from volvo was able to walk
off while the guy in ol' car was dead.
 
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The volvo was smashed but the guy from volvo was able to walk
off while the guy in ol' car was dead.
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This you will see in a lot of accidents, where a Volvo or a Saab is in.

This test is also a bit interesting:


Regards
Bjørn J.
Volvo S80 T6 in BSR stage 3 trim (app 330 Hk)
Volvo S40 2.4i in Göteborg trim for the wife (app 182 Hk)
 
1992 technology vs. 2006 techno;ogy...interesting...how about crashing
a 1992 renuault into a 1002 volvo...where is that video?
 
1992 technology vs. 2006 techno;ogy...interesting...how about crashing
a 1992 renuault into a 1002 volvo...where is that video?
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Now that's an old Volvo... LOL!

I think a meaningful test would be a Volvo PV544 into one of those
dreadful Renault Dauphine cars.
 
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Now that's an old Volvo... LOL!
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I wonder what the horse power may be..;o)
I think a meaningful test would be a Volvo PV544 into one of those
dreadful Renault Dauphine cars.
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Just to put the construction basics in perspective versus the new Renault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_940

To something like a comparison, you should take this pile of junk and ram
togehter with a 850/V70:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_9

Regards
Bjørn J.
 
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1992 technology vs. 2006 techno;ogy...interesting...how about crashing
a 1992 renuault into a 1002 volvo...where is that video?

See at 2:28 min. - 2:38 min what a Volvo does
to a car same age (Renault ?)
 
I drive a 96 Volvo 850 glt wagon. I now wonder how well it would hold
up in the same crash?
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Volvo 850 T5 (1996) has a very large frontal beam
made from aluminium, much larger then that of the
Renault, and such beam is bolted at both frontal ends
and it won't allow to happen the same thing that
happened to the 940.
The 940 doesn't have a frontal beam, required to avoid
that only one side of the front sustains all the impact.

The 850 against that new Renault won't be the same.
In a 25 meters fall the final speed will be 25m/s
which is about 100 km/h.
Volvo 850 is 4.7 meters long.
 
1992 technology vs. 2006 techno;ogy...interesting...how about crashing
a 1992 renuault into a 1002 volvo...where is that video?
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There is one lesson we can take from the video, though. Volvo, although
a pioneer in auto safety, has lost most of its lead in vehicle safety --
not because Volvos aren't safe anymore, but because now MANY vehicles
are much, much safer than in the past.

Java
 
opps, your right...that would be an oldie...the
two cars sure do come to a "fast" stop...lots
of energy there...
 
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KLIP
There is one lesson we can take from the video, though. Volvo, although
a pioneer in auto safety, has lost most of its lead in vehicle safety --
not because Volvos aren't safe anymore, but because now MANY vehicles
are much, much safer than in the past.
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It would also be a tradigy if it not were so.

Still I belive, Volvo and Saab will be some of the pioneers in auto safety
and a lot others just very late copy cats.

Regards
Bjørn J.
 
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skrev i en meddelelse

KLIP


It would also be a tradigy if it not were so.

Still I belive, Volvo and Saab will be some of the pioneers in auto safety
and a lot others just very late copy cats.
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I agree -- they should be known as important pioneers. But
unfortunately for Volvo and Saab, the others are now very good copy
cats.

Check out the crash test results for Audi, Honda and Subaru vehicles.
They're not perfect yet, but they're very good.

I remember when Audis were DANGEROUS in a frontal crash because the
steering column was likely to cause fatal head injury to the driver.
Not any more!

Volvo and Saab can't differentiate themselves with safety any more.
They have to be safe AND something else.

Java
 
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