Volvo S80 Auto

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Can anyone help me please?

I have an 02 Volvo S80 automatic and today the gearbox refused to
change from what I think is 2nd to 3rd gear. The only way around it
was to select L and get the speed up to about 35mph and then change
into D.

It point blank refused to go into 3rd when in 2, 3 or D.

Is this a sign that I have problems with the torque converter, or the
gearbox.
 
Can anyone help me please?
I have an 02 Volvo S80 automatic and today the gearbox refused to
change from what I think is 2nd to 3rd gear. The only way around it
was to select L and get the speed up to about 35mph and then change
into D.

It point blank refused to go into 3rd when in 2, 3 or D.

Is this a sign that I have problems with the torque converter, or the
gearbox.
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First thing to do is check oil level.

Greetings Niels
 
First thing to do is check oil level.

Greetings Niels
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Hi Niels

Thanks for this, it was after changing the oil levels that the problem
occurred. The oil levels on the gearbox are OK. Any thoughts?
David
 
Can anyone help me please?
Hi Niels

Thanks for this, it was after changing the oil levels that the problem
occurred. The oil levels on the gearbox are OK. Any thoughts?
David
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Thats sounds interesting, has to much oil been put on? Remember the marks
are different for cold and warm oil.
What about the oil quality, is it the correct type of oil?

Are any error codes stores?

Greetings Niels
 
Thats sounds interesting, has to much oil been put on? Remember the marks
are different for cold and warm oil.
What about the oil quality, is it the correct type of oil?

Are any error codes stores?

Greetings Niels
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I've talked to the guy this morning who helped me with the oil, and
think we might have come up with an answer to the reason why the fault
might be occurring.

First of all, this is the first time I have worked on my S80 Volvo -
had it for 18 months and never done anything with it! Everything has
worked perfectly, goes like a dream and is so comfortable I have
trouble getting out of it to go to bed!!

My previous Volvo 740 Estate lasted 15 years with me so I knew almost
everything about it.

The old oil was drained from the gearbox and refilled from the top
filler plug. And that was all I did. Talking with my rather more
knowledgeable friend today about your response I think we have
discovered a fundamental error in what we tried to do.

As I now understand it, in order to change the gearbox oil I need to
have the oil cooler drain plug (attached to the radiator) open and the
engine running, at the same time the filler plug on the top of the
gearbox should be open and as the old oil drains out of the bottom of
the cooler plug we should be filling the new oil in from the top.

If this is the correct procedure then I feel maybe what happened is
that we have accidentally introduced an air bubble into the gearbox
oil, and this is causing the gears to fail to select through the
torque mechanism.

I hope you follow what I am trying to describe, and that this helps to
throw a bit more light on the problem.

Cheers
David
 
What model gearbox is it? 4 or 5 speed ?
What type of engine?

Each gearbox has it own method for oil change.

Greetings Niels
 
What model gearbox is it? 4 or 5 speed ?
What type of engine?

Each gearbox has it own method for oil change.

Greetings Niels
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It's an S80 Automatic, 5 speed. AW5 model.
Cheers
David
 
What model gearbox is it? 4 or 5 speed ?
Sorry, missed a bit off.
It is a 2.4 litre petrol engine
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To change you remove the upper hose on the oil cooler, start the engine and
let it run until oil with air comes out the hose.
Shut off engine and fill the same amount on as you got out. Start engine,
run 5 sec in each gear and oil comes out again.
Repeat until oil is nice and red like the new you pour on.
Put hose back on, run throught gears, shut off engine and check oil level.

What oil did you put on? Does it meet the specs for the gearbox?

Greetings Niels
 
To change you remove the upper hose on the oil cooler, start the engine and
let it run until oil with air comes out the hose.
Shut off engine and fill the same amount on as you got out. Start engine,
run 5 sec in each gear and oil comes out again.
Repeat until oil is nice and red like the new you pour on.
Put hose back on, run throught gears, shut off engine and check oil level.

What oil did you put on? Does it meet the specs for the gearbox?

Greetings Niels
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Hi Neils

thanks for the instructions. I will follow them when I start to do
the change.
The oil is right for the gearbox, specs are same as Volvo demand.
I'm a bit concerned about running it in each gear whilst stationary.
I suppose for 5 seconds it won't do any harm to keep my foot hard on
the brake for that time.

Cheers
David
 
Hi Neils
thanks for the instructions. I will follow them when I start to do
the change.
The oil is right for the gearbox, specs are same as Volvo demand.
I'm a bit concerned about running it in each gear whilst stationary.
I suppose for 5 seconds it won't do any harm to keep my foot hard on
the brake for that time.

Cheers
David
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You dont press the speeder in the gears, just go thorugh them with 5 sec in
each gear and the foot on the brake off course.
Thats no problem.

Greetings Niels
 
You dont press the speeder in the gears, just go thorugh them with 5 sec in
each gear and the foot on the brake off course.
Thats no problem.

Greetings Niels
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Thank you Neils

I will come back to you and let you know how I go on when I have
managed to change it.
Keep your fingers crossed!

Cheers
David
 
Thank you Neils

I will come back to you and let you know how I go on when I have
managed to change it.
Keep your fingers crossed!

Cheers
David
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Hi Neils

I did everything you and the workshop manual said. Still getting the
same problem. But now it has got worse. The gears are banging when I
try to change gear as I move along. It is so bad that I have to start
in D and it appears to be moving off in top gear. Seems a bit
terminal to me.

David
 
I will come back to you and let you know how I go on when I have
Hi Neils

I did everything you and the workshop manual said. Still getting the
same problem. But now it has got worse. The gears are banging when I
try to change gear as I move along. It is so bad that I have to start
in D and it appears to be moving off in top gear. Seems a bit
terminal to me.

David
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Too bad. I would recommend you go to a workshop that have some experienze
with that type of transmission and hear their opinion.
Sometimes one has to admit that not all problems can be solved in ones own
garage.
I dont know what more help i can give you here.

Greetings Niels
 
Too bad. I would recommend you go to a workshop that have some experienze
with that type of transmission and hear their opinion.
Sometimes one has to admit that not all problems can be solved in ones own
garage.
I dont know what more help i can give you here.

Greetings Niels
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I went to see my friendly garage today. He said that maybe the
original problem was caused by a filter becoming blocked. But when I
told him about the banging he pulled a face and made a noise like a
plumber does when you ask him for a price for fixing a leak in your
boiler. You know the sort of noise - sucking his teeth and shaking
his head.

Anyway, the car goes to him on Monday and I am then going to the bank
to re-mortgage the house.

I'll keep you posted about what happens.

David
 
I went to see my friendly garage today. He said that maybe the
original problem was caused by a filter becoming blocked. But when I
told him about the banging he pulled a face and made a noise like a
plumber does when you ask him for a price for fixing a leak in your
boiler. You know the sort of noise - sucking his teeth and shaking
his head.

Anyway, the car goes to him on Monday and I am then going to the bank
to re-mortgage the house.

I'll keep you posted about what happens.

David
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Hi Neils

Just returned from the garage which has investigated the problem with
the car. They tell me that it is a valve within the gearbox which has
broken.

The guy from the garage spoke to two local Volvo dealers who both
said, "Oh we sell quite a lot of those, it's a fairly common problem
with this model"

This makes me a little bit unhappy to say the least. The repairs are
going to cost about £1600.00!!
Thanks for your help along the way. I don't suppose for one minute
that Volvo would ever consider accepting that it is a common problem
and that they should foot the bill.

David
 
Hi Neils

Just returned from the garage which has investigated the problem with
the car. They tell me that it is a valve within the gearbox which has
broken.

The guy from the garage spoke to two local Volvo dealers who both
said, "Oh we sell quite a lot of those, it's a fairly common problem
with this model"

This makes me a little bit unhappy to say the least. The repairs are
going to cost about £1600.00!!
Thanks for your help along the way. I don't suppose for one minute
that Volvo would ever consider accepting that it is a common problem
and that they should foot the bill.

David


Glad to hear you found the problem, but not to hear the price. Sometimes its
ecxpensive to be a car owner. My climate control is out of order, and i have
a feeling it might be the most expensive part that needs replacement, the
evaporater in the cabin, too bad for me.

Greetings Niels
 

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