Volvo vs. Subaru AWD?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Tmuldoon, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. Tmuldoon

    Tmuldoon Guest

    Which is better in terms of AWD?

    This video seems to show the Subaru as much, much better.

    Anyone have real world experience why I would choose Volvo over

    I can see the XC70 has more space and more safety features, but for
    the price difference - the Subaru seems a better deal.

    Input please?


    Tmuldoon, Oct 10, 2007
  2. I had a Subaru Legacy and now have a XC70. The AWD on both was more
    than adequate. That is not a deciding factor. What was different was:

    1) The Subaru was a much smaller vehicle with less power and worse gas

    2) The Subaru brakes rusted so bad that they required major overhaul to
    pass state inspection. Volvo brakes just keep on working with just the
    occasional new pads.

    3) The Subaru had such bad body rust that the entire tailgate had to be
    replaced and the rest of the car had to be body pasted and repainted.
    My Volvos have never had body rust.

    4) The Subaru AWD transaxle had a major failure and had to be replaced.
    My XC70 has not had any problems.

    5) The Subaru also had the passenger sun visor fall off, the drivers
    door locked permanently with me inside, the a/c compressor fell apart
    and had to be replaced, all 4 shocks failed, the axle bearings failed,
    and the sun roof leaked, all in less than 120,000 miles.

    The Subaru was cheap to buy, but had to be scrapped with only 120,000
    miles. My Volvos are a little more expensive to buy but have excellent
    resale value, With 120,000 to 180,000 miles on them, they sell in 1 day
    privately for about 25 to 35% of the purchase price. So even though the
    Subaru was cheaper to own, the net cost of ownership was much higher.

    Absolutely no comparison.
    Stephen Henning, Oct 11, 2007
  3. Tmuldoon

    James Sweet Guest

    That sounds shockingly bad. Several friends of mine have Subarus, the oldest
    is a '99, has about 150K on it, only work that's been done on it is routine
    maintenance, the car still looks almost new inside and out. Then again, even
    30 year old cars rarely have rust in this area.
    James Sweet, Oct 11, 2007
  4. Tmuldoon

    Roadie Guest

    Before drawing any conclusions about the traction worthiness of one
    system over the other I would like to see a more professional test
    performed. Clearly the "test" in that video was supposed to leave
    the viewer with the impression that vehicles with the Volvo AWD system
    can barely get out of their own tracks. If the Volvo AWD system
    really performed that poorly, car reviewers would have throughly
    skewered the Volvo system long before now. Additionally, the two AWD
    systems are different and the driving technique used on one may not
    work well on the other.

    I would not be surprised if the individual performing that test has
    another hidden agenda.
    Roadie, Oct 11, 2007
  5. Tmuldoon

    Hakan Gemici Guest

    Roadie yazmýþ:
    As far as i know audi quattro is the far best awd system in the world
    ever made. Take a look at this:

    Hakan Gemici, Oct 19, 2007
  6. Well, it sure shows off the ability of the spiked tires . . . but who
    knows what it says about the Quattro system?

    Espressopithecus (Java Man), Oct 19, 2007
  7. Tmuldoon

    Hakan Gemici Guest

    Espressopithecus (Java Man) <Espressopithecus yazmýþ:
    Well, I think the second link I've given clarifies the difference
    between four wheel drive systems and quattro better. I'd like to mention
    here that I am a volvo owner, and also a big fan. I wish xc70 beat the
    Hakan Gemici, Oct 19, 2007
  8. Tmuldoon

    Hakan Gemici Guest

    sorry forgot to send link

    Hakan Gemici yazmýþ:
    Hakan Gemici, Oct 19, 2007
  9. Tmuldoon

    Roadie Guest

    Sorry, but a hacked together video on Youtube does not provide any
    support for quattro. At best it shows the videographer is capable of
    engineering a test to support a previously drawn conclusion. As with
    the Volvo vs Subaru "test". If a comparative traction test were
    performed by a recognized automobile testing authority in controlled
    conditions then such a test might prove something.

    I find it impossible to believe that the very popular Volvo system
    could fall so short short and such a shortcoming would not be
    mentioned in the automotive press.
    Roadie, Oct 22, 2007
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