ZDDP in API oils used in PRV engines

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Michael Pardee, Mar 24, 2007.

  1. Y'all,

    A post in another car forum warned of a shortcoming API rated oils may have
    regarding cam wear. The question relates to lubricating oils with reduced
    zinc dithiophosphate (ZDDP) in engines. http://www.ttalk.info/Zddp.htm

    Since the most sensitive engine I know is the pre-88 PRV engine, I was
    looking for the group's input on that.

    Thanks!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 24, 2007
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    James Sweet Guest


    If I had one, I would only run a quality full synthetic in it, it's not
    worth taking chances.
     
    James Sweet, Mar 24, 2007
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  3. The link purports to warn us the current API oils (mineral or synthetic)
    lack enough ZDDP to protect flat tappets. I haven't heard of problems but
    figured PRV owners would be up on the status of the oil they use.
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 25, 2007
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    John Horner Guest

    There is much talk about this in old car circles these days. Perhaps
    the most reasonable advice I have seen is to use the dual rated
    diesel/gasoline fleet oils such as Shell Rotella (or Rotella T
    Synthetic), Chevron Delo and the like. These are readily available in
    15W-40, which is a good summertime oil in many older applications and
    can also be found in 10W-30.
     
    John Horner, Mar 26, 2007
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  5. Thanks, John. That does sound reasonable.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Mar 27, 2007
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    K. Shelton Guest

    ZDDP isn't the only antiwear agent that is effective...it is just the
    cheapest. It is also an effective antioxidant. There are substitutes,
    including Molybdenum Trialkyldithiocarbamate, but they cost more.

    A dual diesel/gasoline rated engine oil, either 15W-40, 10W-30, or
    synthetic 5W-40 is a cheap, easy, effective alternative for these older
    engines. Modern engines have no problem with modern oil. For a modern
    gasoline engine, the dual-rated CJ-4/SM diesel engine oils will work
    very well due to the lower level of ash producing metallic detergents in
    the oil.

    Ken
     
    K. Shelton, Apr 3, 2007
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