99 volvo XC70 crosscountry wagon

Discussion in 'Volvo C70' started by David Waite, Jan 11, 2004.

  1. David Waite

    David Waite Guest

    Does anybody know about the reliability of the cross country ?
     
    David Waite, Jan 11, 2004
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  2. The electrical system was less reliable than typical. Over 15% of owners
    had problems. This problem was on all V70s through the 2000 model. It
    was fixed in the 2001 redesign.

    In general the 1998 and 1999 model years were the least reliable for the
    V70XC. The 2001 was a big improvement.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 11, 2004
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  3. David Waite

    John Doe Guest

    Also, make sure the tires are rotated at every scheduled service.

    If you have a warranty and there are any problems with the transfer case,
    the FIRST thing the dealer mechanics do is measure the circumference of the
    tires. If more than 5% diff, then any warranty claim is invalid......

    Transfer case is a weak link and VERY expensive to replace.

    Best,

    Ross
     
    John Doe, Jan 18, 2004
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  4. David Waite

    Jim Kelly Guest

    If one is buying a V70xc from that era, how do we accurately
    recognise the "2001" model with the improvements and avoid it's
    predecessor??

    Thanks,

    Jim

    | > V70XC. The 2001 was a big improvement.
     
    Jim Kelly, Jan 18, 2004
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  5. David Waite

    Peter Milnes Guest

    Pre 2001 the 70 was just an improved 850, post 2001 the 70 is a redesign based
    on S60.

    Cheers, Peter.

    : If one is buying a V70xc from that era, how do we accurately
    : recognise the "2001" model with the improvements and avoid it's
    : predecessor??
    :
    : Thanks,
    :
    : Jim
    :
    : | > V70XC. The 2001 was a big improvement.
    :
     
    Peter Milnes, Jan 19, 2004
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  6. David Waite

    Mike F Guest

    Note that the more advanced (and so far less troublesome) AWD system did
    not appear immediately on the "new" body V70. It wasn't until the 2003
    models.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Jan 19, 2004
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  7. David Waite

    Jim Kelly Guest

    Ouch! . . . So to be sure to get the reliable AWD one has to avoid
    all cross country models up to and including 2002!!!

    Is it fair to say that the introduction of the new AWD system
    coincided with the introduction of the badge name "XC70"?

    Is there a way to recognise the AWD mechanicals to be sure that it
    is the "new" type?

    A new motor snuck in during 2003 . . . the 2.5L . . . with
    considerably more torque (285 up 12% to 320nm). Are these proving to
    be a significant improvement, reliable, etc? My current 850-T5 has
    better KW specs and it seems odd to buy a heavier vehicle with less
    power!

    Curiously, I haven't seen any differences with the '2004' models??

    Cheers,

    Jim Kelly.



    | Peter Milnes wrote:
    | >
    | > Pre 2001 the 70 was just an improved 850, post 2001 the 70 is a
    redesign based
    | > on S60.
    | >
    | > Cheers, Peter.
    | >
    message
    | > | > : If one is buying a V70xc from that era, how do we accurately
    | > : recognise the "2001" model with the improvements and avoid
    it's
    | > : predecessor??
    | > :
    | > : Thanks,
    | > :
    | > : Jim
    | > :
    | > : | > V70XC. The 2001 was a big improvement.
    | > :
    |
    | Note that the more advanced (and so far less troublesome) AWD
    system did
    | not appear immediately on the "new" body V70. It wasn't until the
    2003
    | models.
    |
    | --
    | Mike F.
    | Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.
    |
    | NOTE: new address!!
    | Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me
    directly.
    | (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Jim Kelly, Jan 20, 2004
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  8. David Waite

    Sandyon66XYZ Guest

    Beginning with the 2003 Model Year, the Cross Country a/k/a the XC70 has
    the Haldex AWD which is much better (reliability-wise) than the previously
    used AWD with viscous coupling. Search Google Groups for prior discussions
    in this NG regarding Haldex.

    Sandy
     
    Sandyon66XYZ, Jan 20, 2004
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  9. The Haldex is strictly a performance enhancement. There were no
    reliability issues with the viscous coupling. In fact it is one of the
    most reliable systems in existance since there are no valves or switches
    to go bad. It has a long history of reliability. The Haldex system is
    newer and unproven.

    Haldex historically made automatic brake adjustors. It has expanded
    into other hydraulic fields, but the Haldex AWD system is a new field
    for it and is relatively unproven.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 20, 2004
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  10. David Waite

    Mike F Guest

    There is a reliability issue with the viscous coupling in the sense that
    if tires sizes are too different (this includes one new tire and 3 half
    worn) front to rear, then the driveshaft is loaded. After a short
    period of time, this overheats the oil in the angle gear, which causes
    the angle gear to fail. This includes use of the spare tire. The
    Haldex system can be (and is) programmed to ignore this kind of tire
    size differential.

    --
    Mike F.
    Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

    NOTE: new address!!
    Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
    (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)
     
    Mike F, Jan 21, 2004
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  11. This falls under the category of reading the manual. True 4WDs can
    break axles and dive shafts if used on dry pavement, but that is covered
    in the manual. If you don't read the manual, you can have tons of
    "reliability" problems that are actually user caused: tire pressure, oil
    level, coolant level, fuel level, tire wear, releasing the hand brake,
    turning off the parking lights, brake fluid level, etc.

    Actually I discovered this viscous-coupling/tire-diameter, concern on a
    1990 Subaru Legacy. My Subaru dealer was not aware of the problem. I
    always rotated the best tires to the front and got a power surging which
    Subaru could not figure out. The dealer tried rotating the tires and it
    solved the problem. The smallest diameter tires had to be in the front.
    The problem was agravated by tire wear problems.

    With my 2001 V70 XC I just have my Volvo dealer check my tires whenever
    I go in for 7,500 mile service and haven't had any problems. They
    rotate the tires when appropriate. I use the original equipment Pirelli
    Scorpion S/Ts tires and tire wear has been very uniform and tread wear
    has been good also.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 21, 2004
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  12. David Waite

    Sandyon66XYZ Guest

    Mike,

    Thanks for explaining. You and others knew what I meant when I used the
    term "reliability-wise" in connection with viscous coupling AWD. I was
    trying to alert the poster who I think is contemplating buying a Cross
    Country. That's also why I referred the poster to the prior discussions in
    this NG regarding Haldex and viscous coupling, some of which were started by
    my questions about it.

    I've been told, even if one does not have any expense for repairs to the
    viscous coupling AWD, that buying tires four at a time so as to avoid any
    problem with the viscous coupling "hurts" especially when some of the tires
    have a lot of tread left.

    I was going to buy a new 2002 XC70. After I learned about the viscous
    coupling compared to Haldex AWD issue and learned that the 2003 models would
    have Haldex AWD (which has been successfully used for several years by Audio
    and VW), I waited to buy a 2003 XC70. BTW, I bought it (my 4th Volvo, but
    first one with AWD) on Jan. 31, 2003 with 10 miles on it and it now has
    almost 29,000 miles! It's been a great vehicle and has been terrific in the
    snow and on the slippery roads, here in N.H. last winter and also this
    winter.

    Sandy
     
    Sandyon66XYZ, Jan 21, 2004
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  13. You don't need to buy 4 tires at a time. You just need to keep the
    smallest tires on the front if there is too big a disparity between the
    sizes. If you keep the tires rotated there is not problem. If you get
    into trouble by not rotating, then you may have to play the game by
    keeping smaller tires on the front.
     
    Stephen M. Henning, Jan 22, 2004
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