(bulb out) indicator light problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mw, Dec 22, 2006.

  1. mw

    mw Guest

    Hello to fellow volvo owners and enthusiasts. I've viewed this group
    often....lots of great info. I own a 89' 740 and I'm having a problem
    with the bulb out indicator light located in the speedo display. With
    headlights on, it stays on, if I put the high beams on, it goes off. All
    bulbs are working(I've checked every bulb and connection multiple times).
    This all started with a recent low beam headlight being replaced. I can
    live with the idiot light staying on, but it only serves to remind me
    that I might BE an idiot, since I can't solve a seemingly simple
    problem. I tried a second headlight, in case the first was somehow
    faulty, same problem. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    TIA,

    MW
     
    mw, Dec 22, 2006
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  2. mw

    viktor Guest

    problem. I tried a second headlight, in case the first was somehow faulty,
    My 2 cents....
    I think the reason might be that after replacing one bulb you have two bulbs
    with different wattages now. Either check on the bulbs that they have the same
    watt number or check by removing the second old bulb and put in two identical
    new ones.

    Viktor
     
    viktor, Dec 22, 2006
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  3. mw

    mw Guest

    Viktor=Victory! It's fixed! I took the second new headlight and put it
    on the other side....bingo! Man, you just made my day. Thanks for
    posting, I really appreciate it! I always thought these non-specialty
    headlghts were generic/universal to replace. So I've learned something
    new today. Thanks again, Viktor!
     
    mw, Dec 22, 2006
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  4. mw

    James Sweet Guest


    The bulb failure sensor is super sensitive, even bulbs aged differently
    will sometimes trigger it. Replace them in pairs and you should have no
    trouble.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 23, 2006
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  5. mw

    viktor Guest

    That also explains why the lamp went out on high beam. High beam is used much
    less time than low beam. So the current it draws is still very close to the
    current a new bulb. The low beam is on permanently, at least in many European
    countries, so it has aged a lot.
    Viktor
     
    viktor, Dec 23, 2006
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  6. mw

    mw Guest

    Yes, I will do this from now on. Plus, at least theoretically, the new
    bulbs of same manufacture should have , more or less , the same
    lifespan. Though, I guess, some parts fail prematurely. But since bulbs
    are relatively inexpensive, this is a good idea. Thanks, James



    I kind of understood that it was a current problem, because of the high
    beam causing the lamp to go out. The thing is, I was leaning towards
    faulty wiring or even maybe a relay or something. I really would not
    have ever thought of the uneven current from the bulbs themselves. Sorry
    to get a little silly with the victory thing, but this problem had me
    vexed, on and off, for a number of days. When I was able to just change
    the bulb....well, I know it's a simple thing, but I was pretty happy.
    Appreciate you guys sharing your knowledge. Thanks!
     
    mw, Dec 23, 2006
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  7. mw

    James Sweet Guest

    They normally do. What I do is replace the pair, then keep the remaining
    good one in the car as a spare. That way if one burns out, I can pop
    that in to get me by until I can make it to the store.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 23, 2006
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  8. mw

    James Sweet Guest


    The bulb failure sensor does not monitor the high beam lamps, it only
    looks at bulbs that are considered critical.

    Really I'm not sure why they bothered monitoring the headlights, you can
    easily tell if one is out. The sensor is very handy for the tail lights
    though since you can't see those.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 23, 2006
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  9. mw

    mw Guest


    James, I'll be keeping the extra headlight I replaced, good idea. You
    know, I noticed the high beam wires branch off from the low beam (four
    headlight system). Just curious, how does the sensor exclude the high
    beams in this case. Would there have to be a direct connection by the
    sensor to the high beams? Why do you think the sensor light would go out
    when the high beams were enabled?
    MW
     
    mw, Dec 24, 2006
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  10. mw

    James Sweet Guest


    Pick up a Haynes manual and look at the schematic, that will answer your
    questions. The high and low beams share a common ground and the wires
    are all bundled into one harness but there's two separate circuits and
    only the hot leads to the low beams run through the bulb failure sensor.
    When you switch on the high beams, the low beam filaments in the outer
    lamps shut off and the high beam filaments come on instead along with
    the inner aux high beam lamps.
     
    James Sweet, Dec 24, 2006
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  11. mw

    mw Guest


    I've seen these manuals at the local auto parts store. Although you've
    pretty much answered my question, I think I'll pick one up. Appreciate
    it, James
    MW
     
    mw, Dec 24, 2006
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