Mileages of ex police cars suspcioiously low?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Alan, May 2, 2006.

  1. Alan

    Steve Guest


    Not a flame but...

    Why are BritCops driving Range Rovers and BMW X5's?
    I bet GM or Ford would be quite happy to send a few right hand drive police
    versions of one of our basically bulletproof, although somewhat less refined
    4wd suv's over for much less then those luxo barges cost, and indeed one
    area in which the US makers continue to shine is the ability to fit powerful
    V/8's for low cost.

    I bet Dodge and Ford would also be quite joyful (if enough were ordered) to
    send over hemi chargers and Police Interceptor Crown Vic's for less then a
    volvo cop car costs...well, perhaps not on the Ford since I just realized my
    error, but mopar is going to be pusing the hemi charger very big for police
    use!
     
    Steve, May 3, 2006
    #21
  2. Alan

    Alex Buell Guest

    Simple answer; they're not right hand drive.
     
    Alex Buell, May 3, 2006
    #22
  3. Alan

    Adrian Guest

    Steve () gurgled happily, sounding much like they
    were saying :
    Why not?
    Yes, but our roads have bends in them, thank you.
    They use the odd Merc ML and E-class, too.
     
    Adrian, May 3, 2006
    #23
  4. Alan

    Adrian Guest

    Alex Buell () gurgled happily, sounding much like
    they were saying :
    He did say "RHD" in the first para...
     
    Adrian, May 3, 2006
    #24
  5. The Range Rover is made in the UK?
    Would that be in the same way they send over crappy Chryslers etc, but
    sell them at 'special' UK prices where the pound equals the dollar?

    A basic Jeep Cherokee V6 costs 21 grand here. What is it in the US?
    Perhaps it's escaped your notice that Britain is in the EU and it makes
    sense to trade with other member countries as hopefully they do with us.
     
    Dave Plowman (News), May 3, 2006
    #25
  6. Alan

    Tim S Kemp Guest

    Plenty of the volvo forum guys have ex cop cars, only the odd spec (often
    cloth / manual with oodles of power through 16" rims and no stereo) can be
    awkward. Well maintained but not loved is the usual condition - interiors
    worn but engines happy - I recall one running 13s quarters (with chip and
    nitrous) despite 160k miles and being purchased from a police auction mega
    cheap.
     
    Tim S Kemp, May 3, 2006
    #26
  7. Alan

    Tim S Kemp Guest

    Current proper rangey is a BMW unit petrol and diesel. Disco / sport is the
    Ford / Jag unit.
     
    Tim S Kemp, May 3, 2006
    #27
  8. Alan

    SteveH Guest

    Only in 1st, 'cos once the car's rolling, it's stuck straight into 5th.
     
    SteveH, May 3, 2006
    #28
  9. Alan

    James Sweet Guest


    Regardless of the mileage, don't buy one. Ex police cars are ex for a
    reason, they're pretty well shot by then.
     
    James Sweet, May 4, 2006
    #29
  10. Alan

    James Sweet Guest


    Over in Europe many of the cars we get as luxury cars are not so luxury
    and are not terribly expensive in comparison to what it would cost to
    have American cars imported. I've seen pictures of Volvo 740s with
    manual crank windows, no sunroof, no AC, and even carbureted engines and
    stripped down cloth or vinyl interiors, that sort of thing wasn't even
    available here.
     
    James Sweet, May 4, 2006
    #30
  11. Alan

    Huw Guest

    You do realise of course that the X5 is built in the USA and exported to the
    UK?
    The new MKIII Range Rover has essentially an identical drivetrain to the X5
    and a similar driving experience.
    The policeman who was commenting on TV was probably talking about the
    previous Mk11 Range Rover with the horrendous Rover V8 [sorry Dave!]. These
    had all kinds of problems, the most serious of which was the block cracking
    around the main bearings on some versions. They were moderately OK with
    light private use but given some stick and they would fail regularly, as the
    cop pointed out.
    In fact even privately owned and moderately driven ones failed at low
    mileage due to, I believe, the block going porous.


    Huw
    Huw
     
    Huw, May 4, 2006
    #31
  12. Just shows what happens when you sell a once decent product to Ford.
     
    Dave Plowman (News), May 4, 2006
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  13. Alan

    carlbowman Guest

    But are they? The oldest V70s are nine years old now and there are a
    few intergalactic mileage ex police examples knocking around. Not that
    I've been window shopping for one or anything. Oh no.
     
    carlbowman, May 4, 2006
    #33
  14. Alan

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    It's possbile that Volvos are more robust than other makes - but I doubt it,
    because they share a lot of mechanical parts with other manufacturers.

    A few years ago, I worked for a British manufacturer which was supplying
    cars to the police, and we couldn't work out why they were knackering
    gearboxes in double-quick time. Then we found that they were often
    extricating themselves from motorway traffic jams and accidents by reversing
    along the hard shoulders at high speed for a mile or more at a time -
    something which 'ordinary' motorists would never do, and for which gearboxes
    were not designed!

    I wouldn't have an ex-police car as a gift!
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    Roger
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    Roger Mills, May 4, 2006
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  15. Hence the use of autos these days which won't be damaged by such treatment.

    Remember seeing a police Rover P6 3500 auto where the first gear selector
    had been blanked off. Seems in a town chase they'd previously locked it in
    first from standstill and just run the engine up to tappet pump up...
     
    Dave Plowman (News), May 4, 2006
    #35
  16. Alan

    PC Paul Guest

    It was a yank engine first anyway wasn't it?
     
    PC Paul, May 4, 2006
    #36
  17. Alan

    Roger Mills Guest

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    Yes, indeed, that just illustrates my point. They may not be able to wreck
    an auto box in quite the same way as a manual - but they'll find other
    creative ways of wrecking things, including the engine!
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    Roger Mills, May 4, 2006
    #37
  18. Yes - but not Ford. Buick.

    However it was substantially modified for UK use - including the way the
    castings were made.
     
    Dave Plowman (News), May 4, 2006
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  19. Alan

    Steve Guest

    Cost, reliability and repairability for 3.
    So do ours. our mountains are rather more comprable to the alps then the
    hills of scotland.
    The GM900 or the new model IRS explorer will outperform the rover in every
    measure save ultimate off road ability, and will be close to the x5, at 1/2
    the cost.
    All the more reason to go for the Dodge charger, the last E class with a
    good ol boy body, and 350 hp (425 with the special version) I think 15,000
    pounds should cover a RHD version in a decent order size for the 350HP
    version. BTW it's got RHD in the Chrysler version right now!
    http://www.chrysler.co.uk/chrysler/index.aspx

    This Jeep
    http://www.jeep.co.uk/jeep/versions.aspx?ID=465,18,147
    is about $40,000 in the US so I see no reason why they could not bring the
    GB price under 30,000 pounds for a police version.
     
    Steve, May 4, 2006
    #39
  20. Alan

    Steve Guest

    have noticed that **everything** in jolly old costs the same as here, just
    in pounds, and have noticed that for over 20 years now. Is it taxes, third
    party profits, other factors, all of the above??

    I still think a fleet deal would be much less expensive for US rather then
    BMW or Rover!
    same ish 22,175 for the liberty 2wd,23,700 for the 4wd , which, although I
    have about the same interest in Jeeps as Hummers - nill does look at a
    glance to be the same vehicle.
    Perhaps it's a better idea to purchase more utilitarian and cheaper
    vehicles, and perhaps you have forgotten a long and close relationship
    between our countries. I would much rather see you guys buy Jeeps then
    follow our lead in other (mis)adventures.
     
    Steve, May 4, 2006
    #40
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