The 240 Saga Continues. Dead Battery? Or...?

Discussion in 'Volvo 240' started by Patricia Butler, Jul 1, 2007.

  1. Patricia Butler

    Tim McNamara Guest

    Yes, it can be readily checked.
    If the battery was 14 years old, then that was most likely the problem.
     
    Tim McNamara, Jul 3, 2007
    #21
  2. Patricia Butler

    James Sweet Guest

    Yikes, last battery I bought was $47 at Costco, did you buy it at the dealer
    or something?
     
    James Sweet, Jul 4, 2007
    #22
  3. Patricia Butler

    Peter Adler Guest

    Yup. The battery I bought at Costco for maybe $45 has to be ten years old
    now and still going strong. IIRC, Costco installed it for me and dumped the
    old one free of charge.

    Patricia, after 40 hours, there is no way a functioning automotive battery
    charger wouldn't have put a usable charge in your battery. You should easily
    have been able to start your car on that. Was there a meter on this thing?
    Did it show what the rate of charge was? If no meter, did it at least hum
    purposefully? Or even warm up a little? Something's wrong ...

    Pete (fP)
     
    Peter Adler, Jul 4, 2007
    #23
  4. I bought two portable jump starters at a local chain stores when they were
    on sale. One refused to charge at all and the other was very low capacity.
    Portable jump starters apparently come with gel cell batteries - I shouldn't
    have been surprised. I replaced the dead one with an AGM battery of the same
    size from the local Batteries Plus; the AGM was twice the price of the whole
    unit originally, but I now have one unit that works reliably for $100 US!

    It's worth noting that these should be charged monthly.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 4, 2007
    #24
  5. Patricia Butler

    James Sweet Guest

    The problem comes from these things sitting on store shelves for long
    periods of time, they really do need an expiration date on them for the
    batteries.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 4, 2007
    #25
  6. I think you're right. even gel-cells should last two years if charged
    periodically.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 4, 2007
    #26
  7. Patricia Butler

    z Guest

    I wonder if it wouldn't be worth just getting a big gel cel to go with
    the preexisting jumper cables and battery charger I'm sure
    **everybody** already has?
     
    z, Jul 5, 2007
    #27
  8. It makes sense.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 6, 2007
    #28
  9. Patricia Butler

    James Sweet Guest

    Heck even I didn't have a battery charger until recently, I don't think most
    folks own them. The portable jump starters are a lot more intuitive, and
    they're clean, simple, anyone can figure out how to use them. I wouldn't
    trust my mom to cart around a big gel cell and figure out how to hook it up
    safely with jumper cables. Those things can deliver hundreds of amps if
    shorted.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 6, 2007
    #29
  10. RV stores can sell setups for mounting a standby battery, but I'm not sure
    it's worth the cost to most of us.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jul 6, 2007
    #30
  11. Well, I shopped around for a battery at 1997 prices but, oddly, all I
    found were those at 2007 prices. Go figure.

    The charger said it takes a full 48 hours for its initial charge, so
    it wasn't letting me down by not working after only 40 hours. Even
    so, since I didn't need it after all (thanks to the auto club) I
    simply returned it for a refund.
     
    Patricia Butler, Jul 6, 2007
    #31
  12. If I decide to get one to carry around, I'll get the Black & Decker
    charger that you use via the cigarette lighter rather than connecting
    directly to the battery. Takes a little longer to charge the battery
    (10 minutes as opposed to instantaneously), but it's a lot less
    hassle, especially if you happen to be stranded by the side of the
    road in the rain or something.
     
    Patricia Butler, Jul 6, 2007
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  13. Patricia Butler

    James Sweet Guest

    I wouldn't buy one that plugs into a lighter. The lighter wiring on 240s is
    pretty puny, and any oxidation in the socket will make it not work
    effectively, that and you're also running through those failure prone fuses
    and fuse panel. The jumper cable type is far more effective and versatile
    since it connects directly to the battery. I once used one to bring home a
    car with a dead battery and alternator by setting the whole jump starter
    under the hood to keep the ignition powered up.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 7, 2007
    #33
  14. Patricia Butler

    Peter Adler Guest

    Sorry - it let you down. The only thing that would have happened during
    those final eight hours is more of the same. The battery should have
    achieved at least an 85% charge after 40 hours. More than enough to start
    your engine.

    I guess it's only old-timers like me that still buy at '97 prices. Old
    habits die hard ...

    Pete (fP)
     
    Peter Adler, Jul 12, 2007
    #34
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