V70R question :: S70R??

[Fred]

I saw a "new" V70R the other day at the local Volvo dealer, msrp at US
$37,900+ change. As I was reading the window sticker for options. it was
obviously loaded, I saw the horse power rating for the vehicle and as I
recall it was 300HP.

I *think* it was a leftover '03 model but not sure, at any rate, did they
ever make an S70 with 300hp?

Wow, a station wagon that would outrun a new Nissan 350z, ouch!, hope you
weren't on a date!

Plus did they ever make an S70R? and what years?

TIA!!

 

[Bonnet Lock]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

I saw a "new" V70R the other day at the local Volvo dealer, msrp at US
$37,900+ change. As I was reading the window sticker for options. it
was obviously loaded, I saw the horse power rating for the vehicle
and as I recall it was 300HP.

I *think* it was a leftover '03 model but not sure, at any rate, did
they ever make an S70 with 300hp?

Wow, a station wagon that would outrun a new Nissan 350z, ouch!, hope
you weren't on a date!

Plus did they ever make an S70R? and what years?

TIA!!

I think they did - but presumably you are aware that the S70 and current V70
are completely different cars?

The previous V70 (up until about 2000) shared the S70 platform, whereas the
current V70 shares the S80 platform - so the engine options in current the
V70 are likely to be different from those in the S70.

 

[Rob Guenther]

I think the old S70 R was something like 247hp... Pretty sure it was AWD
too... Not 100% sure, this was a few year ago, one time look at the car in
the dealer showroom.

 

[Bev A. Kupf]

The previous V70 (up until about 2000) shared the S70 platform, whereas the
current V70 shares the S80 platform - so the engine options in current the
V70 are likely to be different from those in the S70.

What do you mean by this? All versions of the 2004 V70 still have a 5
cyl engine (including the V70R). The S80 has a 6 cyl engine.

 

[Bonnet Lock]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

What do you mean by this? All versions of the 2004 V70 still have a
5 cyl engine (including the V70R). The S80 has a 6 cyl engine.

I mean what I say! The S80 (in Europe at any rate!) has a range of
6-cylinder engines (with different power outputs) and also a range of
5-cylinder petrol engines and a diesel engine.

Because the S80/new V70 was completely re-engineered, it is virtually
certain that engine changes will have been made from the previous V/S-70.
So, even if the two ranges used nominally the same engine, there will be
detail differences which result in differences in power output - and
certainly differences in weight/gearing etc. - so that they won't perform
exactly the same.

 

[Bev A. Kupf]

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,


I mean what I say! The S80 (in Europe at any rate!) has a range of
6-cylinder engines (with different power outputs) and also a range of
5-cylinder petrol engines and a diesel engine.

Interesting. In N. America, the S80 has a 6 cyl. engine, and is not
offered with any 5-cyl variants. The S60 is offered with a 5 cyl. engine.

 

[Mike F]

Interesting. In N. America, the S80 has a 6 cyl. engine, and is not
offered with any 5-cyl variants. The S60 is offered with a 5 cyl. engine.

Actually, the S80 is now available with a 5 cylinder engine - the light
pressure turbo. This car also has the Haldex AWD system - the S80 2.5T
AWD. It's also almost exactly the same price as the S80 2.9 (non
turbo).

To the original poster - there was a S70R, but never in North America.
It "only" had the engines of the older V70 - to a maximum of 247 hp (250
as measured in Europe). The S60R is available with the 300 hp motor as
in the current V70R.

--
Mike F.
Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

NOTE: new address!!
Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
(But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)

 

[Fred]

To the original poster - there was a S70R, but never in North America.
It "only" had the engines of the older V70 - to a maximum of 247 hp (250
as measured in Europe). The S60R is available with the 300 hp motor as
in the current V70R.

Ah yes, the S60 R just looked it up. If it checks out research wise,
that's my next car. With an automatic.

300hp...

*sweet*

 

[~^ beancounter ~^]

i think it is a new platform...it should be a
"kick ass" wagon....as long as it does not act like
the s80's...time will tell...i want to talk w/an owner
w/50 - 75k miles on their 04 wagon...then i will decide
to get one or not.....they sure do L@@K nice.....

 

[Joe landy]

Hi all.
I have the brochure for the UK V70R, and it's a 2.5 litre 5 cyl engine.
Weren't the Pre 2000 V70Rs all 2.3 litre?
The S70 was indeed available as an R, and there are a few floating around in
my area. They sell much cheaper than V70R on the secondhand market round
here, presumably because the V70 is more useful for normal family life as
well as for going out for a blast on the motorway/freeway.
I used to know a chappy who had his S70R chipped to about 310BHP. Not sure
how long it lived. Mind you, I'm not even sure how long he lived.
the D5 is quick enough for me, as my 1997 2.5TDI puts up a good fight with
most who challenge me! That's even with 245,000 miles on the clock you
understand.
OK, the Subarus get past me eventually, but they sure get a surprise first.
Enjoy yourself, and stay safe.
Joe Landy.
Peterborough
UK.
V70 2.5TDI 245,000 miles, new exhaust, new alternator. I love it and I want
to transplant a D5 into it!
E-mail joelandyman <at> postmaster.co.uk
All E-mail to my NTL world address will be deleted.
Sorry spammers!

 

[Bev A. Kupf]

Actually, the S80 is now available with a 5 cylinder engine - the light
pressure turbo. This car also has the Haldex AWD system - the S80 2.5T
AWD. It's also almost exactly the same price as the S80 2.9 (non
turbo).

Nice to know that. I didn't know and hadn't seen this at the dealers the
last time I was there.

 

[AB]

Are you absolutely sure? A quick check on the Volvo specs on their website
indicates the V70 and S60 are far more closely related in terms of wheelbase
and track than the S80 and V70.....

Also, to look at the two of them there is a far stronger resemblance betwen
the S60 and V70 than the S80 and V70.....

As for the S70R (old 850 brick shape), the 'R' variant had around 280BHP
from what I recall as the base S70T5 (in its final form with the Bosch ME7
engine management) had 247BHP.

The older T5s were indeed 2.3 l as opposed to the newer T5 engines 2.5 l
capacity. This also includes the S40/V50 variants too and the S60R.

Incidentally, the 2.3l engine seems to have a propensity to bend conrods at
or above the 300BHP mark. In the newer R versions the conrods are forged to
improve the strength to help them take 300BHP with safety...

A.