CHOKE on this!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Philip, Jan 5, 2005.

  1. Philip

    Philip Guest

    At 70 years, and a being a retired line driver, there isn't anything I have
    NOT been behind at some point. LOL

    I have seen plenty of drivers in truck stops whose cigarette or pipe smoke
    could match that of a good running early 1980's Oldsmobile (choke). The
    frequency of diesels belching smoke is the exception these days.
     
    Philip, Jan 10, 2005
  2. Yes, obviously British, but I liked the assertion from that StingRay chappie
    about always being able to tell an "Englishman"... :)

    Sort of reminds of the time when I lived in digs in Penarth (suburb of
    Cardiff, capital of Wales, for those not in Europe) many moons ago.

    My parents once sent me a letter from abroad (they're not English or
    British) addressed to me in Cardiff, England. My landlord gave me quite a
    lecture... :)

    DAS
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Jan 10, 2005
  3. Philip

    Philip Guest

    Is it not remarkable how much 'tolerance' vehicles recognized for being an
    intrigal part of the economy and/or a political agenda get! LOL
     
    Philip, Jan 10, 2005
  4. Philip

    Guest Guest

    In cold weather diesels stink bad, real bad. In fact so bad I have to
    close off my external air mix valve. Buses are real bad. School buses
    are even stinkier. Those with exhaust pipes off the side instead of up
    the top like the big trucks, blow that crap right into the cars.
    --
     
    Guest, Jan 10, 2005
  5. Philip

    Full_Name Guest

    A Diesel can't be "tuned up" However a diesel with worn injectors or
    sucking air into the fuel line or a number of other problems will
    cause this. I believe that the real source of most visible diesel
    smoke that you are seeing is from high sulphur diesel fuel (Often in
    North America) or from worn out diesels in a poor state of repair in
    other regions.

    Watch the new common rail and other efficient diesels run with
    functioning emission controls and you'll be hard pressed to discern
    any smoke, heavy or otherwise.

    In fact I would love for you to compare the visible emissions from a 6
    pac 'Cuda to a new 200 HP VW GTi TDi upon hard acceleration.

    Emissions are as a result of government requirements. What you are
    seeing is the result of what the government has stated is acceptable.

    What makes me shake my head is the pollution that is released by home
    furnaces and farming unmentioned in the media while the brainless
    "environmentalists" belabor the auto sector.

    But..... I suppose that it's easier to attack a rich guy in a Caddy
    than it is to attack Grandma and her home & Farm practices.
     
    Full_Name, Jan 11, 2005
  6. Philip

    Philip Guest

    The test vehicle in the example was a current technology European passenger
    car. Not a 40 year old Crown school bus with a equally dated engine. I
    have no idea where you live so I cannot comment about old buses spewing high
    sulfur exhaust in your vents. Where I live, metro diesel busses are CNG
    fueled and school buses are a mix of biodiesel and CNG. No smoke or stench.
    As for OTR trucks, they are subject to California emsssions rules. Out of
    State trucks .... who knows other than emission levels those trucks had to
    meet to be sold originally. Also, sulfur content varies quite a bit outside
    of CA. If you don't like it, don't follow busses or .. RIDE the bus. LOL
     
    Philip, Jan 11, 2005
  7. Philip

    Philip Guest

    SNIP

    You are in error about diesel tuning. Completely.
     
    Philip, Jan 11, 2005
  8. Philip

    StingRay Guest


    That should have read grovel, as in "cringe". Hey, it was late at night
    Dori. I'm surprised that you only found one error in that rather lengthy
    piece. Mea culpa.
     
    StingRay, Jan 11, 2005
  9. Philip

    StingRay Guest

    Brad, that was truly spoken like a man who "thinks he's being witty, rather
    than understanding he's quite dimwitted." Your inferiority complex is
    shining through. It's well deserved Brad. ;-) Just keep reading those
    studies Brad and you may someday get a clue. You would have been better off
    remaining quiet and appearing stupid, rather than opening your mouth and
    removing all doubt.
     
    StingRay, Jan 11, 2005
  10. Philip

    Philip Guest

    Plagiarizing without giving due credit again?

    "You would have been better off remaining quiet and appearing stupid, rather
    than opening your mouth and removing all doubt.?

    (earliest version seems to be Proverbs 17:28) 28 Even a fool, when he
    holdeth his peace, is counted wise:
     
    Philip, Jan 11, 2005
  11. Philip

    Huw Guest


    My Range Rover is tuned by 'chipping'.
    I have a range of off road equipment including a few tractors. Latest
    tractor engines are tier II compliant while tier III will take over on
    engines above 150hp from next Summer. Most current off road engines above
    100hp already have high pressure injection systems with electronic engine
    management while an increasing number have common-rail type injection. Tier
    III compliant engines will have common rail or unit injectors combined with
    variable vane turbo's and exhaust gas recirculation.

    I do agree about oil fired home heating though. I have three such systems
    and when they start to smoke or smell, boy do they pollute!

    Huw
    Huw
     
    Huw, Jan 11, 2005
  12. The problem with that theory is that you too could be deluding yourself into
    thinking that you are clever and witty when you are not. I suppose you'll
    have to fall back on school grades, IQ tests, and general concensus to show
    otherwise.

    StingRay can go down to a community college and sign up for a logic 101
    class to see how lacking his reasoning skills are, but he probably doesn't
    care. After all, he might even have a Stingray, and it's probably the high
    point of his life.
     
    Hagrinas Mivali, Jan 12, 2005
  13. Philip

    Eric Dreher Guest

    I'd wager it DEFINES his life...pathetic dullard that he is.
     
    Eric Dreher, Jan 12, 2005
  14. Philip

    StingRay Guest

    Hmmm, Hag, I'm sure that a Stingray (Families Dasayatidae &
    Potamotrygonidae) is a carnivorous animal that feeds mainly on crustaceans
    and other invertebrates. It would appear that I reeled in you and Eric
    Dreher hook, line and sinker! You two invertebrates really
    don't have a clue between you. Why don't you both troll over to alt.dolts
    and join your ilk. By the way, I don't "have a Stingray". It's illegal!
    *still shaking head in disbelief at stupidity of Hag & Ric *
    It's been fun feeding on you and Ric ! *Plonk*
     
    StingRay, Jan 12, 2005
  15. No, that's the glory of the theory....everyone falls under the same
    assumption. Including you and your comment here.
    Well if he does own a Stingray I'd give him credit, but something tells me
    he is more likely a latter day Corvette owner, gold chains and all.
     
    Bradburn Fentress, Jan 12, 2005

  16. Oh, oh....someone spent some time on Google before posting.

    Did he fool anyone? :^)
     
    Bradburn Fentress, Jan 12, 2005
  17. Philip

    Eric Dreher Guest

    As to having anything more than two firing synapses? Nope.

    This supercilious twit/killfile fodder took about 0.2 seconds to enter
    my bozo bin. He's shrieking in the dark...in more ways than one.
     
    Eric Dreher, Jan 13, 2005
  18. I would think that even you are not so stupid that you don't know that
    Stingray has more than one meaning, and when started with an upper-case
    letter, it's a proper noun, not a common noun. Your definition is therefore
    completely wrong. Furthermore, even if it were correct, you cannot comment
    about laws relating to them in any meaningful way. Each nation has
    different laws. In the US, state laws would govern ownership of animals, and
    each state has different laws. If there's a federal law covering this, or
    you have evidence that it's illegal in every state and every country, then
    by all means let me know about them. I can find many people on the Web who
    must be breaking the law according to you. Perhaps you want to report them.
     
    Hagrinas Mivali, Jan 14, 2005
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