How much is the volvo worth?

Pete M () gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

So how do you spot their cars?

 

Remember the turbo is a very special peace of kit on this car, it's where

I've had a 1995 850 T5 estate for about 6 months, bought from ebay. It's on
140,000 miles, and is still on the original turbo and clutch.
No smoke from turbo (or anywhere), only work I've done on it other than a
service is to sort out the air con, which cost about £40 in parts and a
re-gas.

German and Swedish are great for most parts at sensible prices
http://www.gsfcarparts.com/

These cars are *very* quick, and great fun, and handle well too for a big
bus, but the ride is firm.

Although insurance group 16-17 the insurance cost is not too bad (I'm 29
with clean licence), - cheaper that the T4 V40 my wife wants!.

I can get low 30's MPG if driven carefully, but that rarely happens

I drove one first 6 years ago and have wanted one ever since, and won't part
with it now!

Alan.

 

They're fucked.

 

Ben Blaney () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

Well, yes, but how do you differentiate them from every other fucked car
out there...?

(Having said that, I followed a Ka yesterday - about 4/5 yrs old - still
with a National car rental sticker in the back window...)

 

In

*Ding!*

Haven't you ever wondered just who actually buys a car and keeps it for just
six months yet does 10,000 miles? There are car supermarkets full to the
brim with ex-hire cars, main agency stealerships tend to be full of "SOR"
cars and yet they're all sold as being "ex lease, only one driver", yet
there's never any sign at all of this mystical driver anywhere on any
paperwork for the car. The service history books are always vague as hell
with no accompanying receipts, the alloys are always kerbed, the door cards
are normally far more scuffed than you'd expect from a 6 month old lease
car, and the tyres normally show a lot of wear for just 10k miles.

Besides, where can you actually lease a car for six months from?


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Pete M

Range Rover Vogue SE, Ford Capri (ressurection stalling)
Porsche 911 3.2 (For Sale)

COSOC #5
Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain

 

Does it matter? You're not going to buy any of them!

 

I have the same problem, my father bought one last year, I have been
hooked ever since....

I have never, ever driven such a wolf in sheeps clothing, some people in
the T5 club have uprated the turbo and fitted modified fuel systems and
downpipes to increase power to around 400bhp - It's hard to tell exactly
though as most rolling roads wont measure that much power!

I drove my fathers last winter and left a scooby doo for dust in sunny
Blackpool, he looked kindo embarased and started looking to see if it
was an unmarked car.

White one's are great, everybody thinks your a coppa - I have driven one
and people where moving over to let me past, lol.

Andy

 

Taxes. Their (UK) major tax is the VAT, a sales tax. We were just
touring Scotland and England in May and the prices were about the same
as in the US except they were in £ not $, so, in effect, just about
everything cost twice what it does in the USA. However, that is
misleading because we have income tax, social security tax, and property
taxes taken out of our spending money in the USA, may still pay sales
tax in addition. Their (UK) VAT is included in the price.

 

As well as our income tax and national insurance that gets deducted from our
wages...

 

We also pay income tax and national insurance (social security tax).
Plug some numbers (in pounds, not dollars, obviously) into this to get
an idea of how much....

http://www.moneyweb.co.uk/products/tax/income/generalincometaxni.html

 

Lol - odd how even the most underpowered daily rental shopping trolley can
leave hoooge number elevens everywhere...

 

And VAT is 17.5% which is 2-3 times higher than your Sales Tax I
believe. Plus, a recently introduced "reciprocal agreement" means that
if we (in any EU country) buy off the 'net from US companies they have
to charge us VAT at the rate applicable in our country. We have a name
for this situation, Rip-off Britain :-(

BTW, can you explain something about US Sales Tax? I see on websites
things like "California residents add x% Sales Tax" which, presumably,
means that if you live in another state then you don't pay the Sales
Tax. Does this mean that if you live near the border between two states
that you can drive into the next state and do all your shopping tax-free?

Parish

 

I've never seen this (although it may well exist). When I first moved
here in the mid-80s, my recollection is that some drive-through "restaurants"
wouldn't charge sales tax, presumably for a similar reason.

Beverly

 

Here's an example plucked at random from a Google

http://www.exhibitapress.com/pages/ordering.html

Parish

 

I meant I hadn't seen stores near interstate borders that didn't charge
sales tax. I have seen the internet practice of not charging sales tax
for out of state sales.

Beverly

 

This has come up a few times on various motoring forums, and I think
pretty much every police driver has said they wouldn't touch ex police
cars with a bargepole. Yes they are well mainatined, but they are
constantly thrashed. IIRC one forces' 3.2 Vectras averaged 10 -14 mpg;
that shows what sort of treatment they're getting. Regularly kerbed,
drunks forever chucking up in the back yada, yada...

 

Parish () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

AIUI (and I am not a 'merkin) any sales "within-state" are taxable. Any
sales between states are not.

Since any over-the-counter sale is within the state by definition (unless
the state boundary happens to pass between salesman and customer...)
they're all taxable, even if the customer lives out-of-state.

 

Er - who's 'they' in this case? We have to pay the vat (and duty if
applicable) on imports, but it doesn't get charged by the US company like
VAT normally is - it gets handled upon import. This isn't a recent thing at
all, neither is it unique to imports from the US.

Are you talking about some special new rules - if so, can you tell me more?
FWIW my last import from the US was about last month, and I know that
nothing of what you said applied to it.

cheers,
clive

 

Yes. At least people drive from Vancouver, WA to Portland, OR for that
reason and people drive from southeaster PA to DE for that reason.
However, things that are registered like cars and boats must have the
state (and local) sales tax paid before they are registered. One caveat
that is interesting is that if you live in Oregon, you can buy your car
in Washington tax-free because Oregon doesn't tax cars. You hear "cross
over the bridge" ads all the time on Portland radio stations.

Liquor has an even higher tax, so there are frequent trips across state
lines for liquor. Now keep in mind that we (USA) have a lot of people
driving gas hogs like SUV's doing this, so the savings are very marginal
sometimes.

People in the USA think our petrol prices are high. We are paying about
$2.25 per gallon (that is £0.30 per liter) for regular now. While in
the UK I was paying about $7 per gallon (that is £0.95 per liter). ...
and we think our gas prices are high.

 

In

Heh, we used to do "burn out" contests in 1.0 Micras when we were bored.
Either that or have Seicento Vs Ka handbrake tournaments. Amazing how many
times you can get a Ka to spin if you yank the handbrake on at 50mph in a
carpark.


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Pete M

Range Rover Vogue SE, Ford Capri (ressurection stalling)
Porsche 911 3.2 (For Sale)

COSOC #5
Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain