How much is the volvo worth?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Darren, Jul 12, 2005.

  1. Darren

    Parish Guest

    Sorry, I wasn't explicit enough; if you buy non-tangible goods - e.g.
    s/w downloads - you are charged VAT at the rate applicable to the
    "delivery" country. Try buying a software download from Symantec's US
    website.

    http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111422,00.asp
    http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,84024,00.asp

    Although I can't work out how the EU can force US, for example,
    companies to collect VAT for EU countries. I guess it's incorporated
    into US tax laws?

    BTW, if you buy from Symantec's (and other software comapnies) "UK"
    website you will find that they are based in Eire and charge the Eire
    VAT rate which is higher (19%?) than the UK.

    Parish
     
    Parish, Jul 13, 2005
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  2. Darren

    Parish Guest

    Not as daft as it sounds. There is a pub in North Wales where the
    boundary between two counties passes through the pub and many years ago
    one of the counties was "dry" so only half the pub could open on Sundays :)

    Parish
     
    Parish, Jul 13, 2005
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  3. Darren

    Parish Guest

    But you can get an awful lot of beer in an SUV :)
    OK, don't rub it in ;-)

    Parish
     
    Parish, Jul 13, 2005
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  4. Darren

    Tim.. Guest


    A stock bottom end won't handle much more than 300bhp- the conrods are the
    weak point and will bent like plasticine over that figure.

    Tim..
     
    Tim.., Jul 13, 2005
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  5. Darren

    Zathras Guest

    On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:52:11 +0100, "Pete M"

    You forgot to mention the obligatory fag burns on the interior trim!
     
    Zathras, Jul 13, 2005
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  6. Darren

    Steve Guest

    BTW, can you explain something about US Sales Tax? I see on websites
    If you buy something over the web, and the firm you buy from does not have a
    business presence in your state (assuming your state charges sales tax, I
    know Delaware and New Hampshire do not) you pay no sales tax. The reason
    you see 'state x residents add y% tax' is thats where the web sit's firm is
    located.

    If you live close to Delaware, like we do, you can go there to buy high cost
    items like TV's or stereos (or food every week), or you can buy stuff like
    washers and friges from a low(er) tax place, and have them delivered, saving
    a very few bucks, but in my younger days it seemed well worth it...

    If you are caught there are heavy fines for, say, bringing booze, beer, or
    the like into Pennsylvania, my state, from New Jersey or S(lol)elaware,
    low(er) tax states.

    If you buy a car in a low tax place you must pay your states sales tax in
    order to register the vehicle and get license plates, and usually you have
    to pay the tax right at the dealers. I guess if you were big into saving
    money you could buy a series of vehicles in Delaware and register them to
    some sham corporation you set up...there IS a reason that almost ALL big
    American firms are incorporated in the state of Delaware.

    You can get around some taxes, however many states have 'rationalized' tax
    collection practices so it's simpler, and there seems to be a slow,
    unstoppable momentum building to have the US Congress pass some law so that
    the loop hole with internet purchases is closed, I am betting this will
    happen before the turn of the decade.

    For some reason Americans seem to hate taxes, and its a sure fire way for
    politicos to win office--the system where there are national taxes would
    seem to result in less inefficency on the macro level as activity to avoid
    taxes is reduced--but I know you guys hate taxes too!
     
    Steve, Jul 13, 2005
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  7. Darren

    Steve Guest

    When I was young I went to Israel and rented a Fiat 126. 1980 I think.

    I had it up to 180 KMPH a lot, the army guys in Sinai were amazed how fast I
    got from check point to check point. In time a cop pulled me over and asked
    for my papers etc (driving a ford fairmont straight from the USA BTW).

    He said the speed limit was 100, so I told him I was just doing 90 MPH (the
    car had mph/kmph on the Speedo), he looked like he wanted to kill me, said
    Kilometers, not miles, and told me to drive 80 KMPH all the way to Tel Aviv.
    I did!

    When I returned that car it was understandably worn out!

    That was years ago. When I rent a car now I just want to get where I am
    going. I want no dealing with cops from different states

    (although I do admit that in France in 2000, I was driving quite fast, and
    after I got my wife to close the windows I got a Fiat brake (estate/S/W)
    with a turbo diesel to go 200KMPPH (140mph) down the side of a mountain hwy.
    Still he Fiat ran fine when I returned it)

    The percentage of people from the USA who figure hey what can they do to me
    might be a factor in Europe, but in the USA there are low low low speed
    limits everywhere, and once people get older then 22 or so parking brake
    moves and Rene Julian (sp?, famous French stunt driver) moves are passé.

    In the same vein cops in the USA, not cities, but suburbs just cruise day in
    day out.

    Sure urban cop cars take a beating, and state police/highway patrol cars
    which seem to be doing >110MPH on a daily basis are a different matter.

    In the USA many taxis are retired police cars.....

    Most rental cars are driven by folks who do not want trouble and just want
    to get where they are going.
    I think they would be an ok buy if I was poor again, however a hot rod
    police car...I would buy it if I had no other option and had the Need For
    Speed, but hey its your money your decision.
     
    Steve, Jul 13, 2005
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  8. Darren

    Tim S Kemp Guest

    <glances at dervy>
     
    Tim S Kemp, Jul 13, 2005
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  9. Darren

    Stuart Gray Guest

    my ex bodyguard bought an ex police 850 T5. Apart from the holes in the
    trim, and the seized rear off side caliper, it was a beaut. He loved it and
    it proved to be a useful tool for getting out of places quick. He still has
    it as far as I know, according to his colleagues. It was the only front
    wheel drive Volvo that made me think about swapping out my beloved 240,
    740s.
     
    Stuart Gray, Jul 13, 2005
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  10. Darren

    Pete M Guest

    In
    Heh, £150 a burn.. made some money out of those..


    --
    Pete M

    Range Rover Vogue SE, Ford Capri (ressurection stalling)
    Porsche 911 3.2 (For Sale)

    COSOC #5
    Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
     
    Pete M, Jul 13, 2005
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  11. Darren

    James Sweet Guest


    The thing that would worry me is not the maintenance, but knowing that
    people beat the crap out of rental cars, and the chances of one having been
    properly broken in are slim to none. That can cause a lot of problems down
    the road.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 14, 2005
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  12. Darren

    James Sweet Guest

    I rented a car in Los Angeles once that had them on the *ceiling*!
     
    James Sweet, Jul 14, 2005
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  13. Darren

    James Sweet Guest

    Our sales tax is typically around 8%, it varies by state though, some have
    none at all, though usually they make up for it by higher taxes for other
    things.
    As far as I know, it only applies to things you mail order, there's no tax
    on that unless the company you order from operates out of your state, so if
    you mail order something from a company in CA and you live there as well,
    you pay tax on it. If you mail order from another state you don't. If you
    live in a state without sales tax you are exempt from paying it in a state
    that does normally.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 14, 2005
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  14. Darren

    James Sweet Guest


    It's all relative, when the price doubles within a year it doesn't much
    matter if it started out at $1 or at $3, it still hurts.
     
    James Sweet, Jul 14, 2005
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  15. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    21%
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 14, 2005
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  16. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    What? Are you on witness protection or a old rock star?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 14, 2005
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  17. At least gas/petrol is still less expensive than bottled water. Bottled
    water is at least $8 per gallon if you buy it in 16 oz bottles. When
    you think about it, it is amazing how cheap gas/petrol is. It must be
    found, wells drilled, crude oil pumped, transported thousands of miles,
    refined, and delivered to the pumps. For the bottled water they can
    just put a filter on a city water spigot.
     
    Stephen Henning, Jul 14, 2005
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  18. Darren

    Bev A. Kupf Guest

    A very cogent observation. Several brands are nothing further than
    bottled city water -- Aquafina for example, uses Houston city water
    as the source.

    Beverly
     
    Bev A. Kupf, Jul 14, 2005
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  19. Darren

    Guy King Guest

    The message <>
    What was that CocaCola bottled water that crashed so spectacularly in the UK?
     
    Guy King, Jul 14, 2005
    #59
  20. Darren

    Adrian Guest

    Guy King () gurgled happily, sounding much like
    they were saying :
    Dasani
     
    Adrian, Jul 14, 2005
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